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From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net>
Cc: guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Templates for monadic procedures
Date: Wed, 03 May 2017 12:16:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k25yutx3.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87d1bqh2xl.fsf@elephly.net> (Ricardo Wurmus's message of "Wed, 03 May 2017 08:25:42 +0200")

Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net> skribis:

> Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:
>
>> So, <https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix.git/commit/?id=dcb95c1fc936d74dfdf84b7e59eff66cb99c5a63>
>> adds a C++-inspired template mechanism to (guix monads).  Now we can
>> write:
>>
>>   (define-template (mapm monad proc lst)
>>     …)
>>
>> That automatically leads to the definition of both a generic version
>> (same one as before, inefficient) as well as one specialized version for
>> each monad that is defined.  Each specialized version is more efficient
>> because the monad it is specialized for is known at expansion-time, and
>> thus we can inline the monad’s bind/return:
> […]
>> All this relies on a “stateful macro” that keeps state across the
>> expansion-time and run-time stages.  I think it’s a pretty fun hack!
>
> Wow!  That’s very cool!  I previously played with my own monads in Guile
> for a toy project and it bothered me that too many lookup happened at
> runtime.  Having a lookup directory at expansion time is really neat,
> though I must say that this higher level macrology would be very hard
> for me to come up with from scratch!
>
> I wonder if we could also do monad type checking at expansion or compile
> time.  That’s the last thing that’s missing here.

At this point we can distinguish between “definitely a monad” and “don’t
know” for the first argument of ‘mlet’ and the templated procedures.
That’s a start.  ;-)

I really want to look at Turnstile, which uses macrology to introduce
some typing:

  https://docs.racket-lang.org/turnstile/The_Turnstile_Guide.html

Ludo’.

      reply	other threads:[~2017-05-03 10:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-02 22:03 Templates for monadic procedures Ludovic Courtès
2017-05-03  6:25 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2017-05-03 10:16   ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]

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