From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Subject: bug#31786: 'pre-inst-env guix --version' is not updated by new commits" Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 18:36:31 +0200 Message-ID: <87k1r1z5o0.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87r2lddwyg.fsf@gmail.com> <87k1r4p2ca.fsf@gnu.org> <87k1r3271g.fsf@gmail.com> <87d0wvoicy.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9gf5x0t.fsf@gmail.com> <87wov3npl2.fsf@gnu.org> <20180614013938.GD29167@jasmine.lan> <87d0wttn0v.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35592) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fTVFC-0003jp-LN for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2018 12:37:07 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fTVF8-0008Sh-N5 for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2018 12:37:06 -0400 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:40474) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fTVF8-0008Ri-Hj for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2018 12:37:02 -0400 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fTVF8-0005tr-Ak for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2018 12:37:02 -0400 Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <87d0wttn0v.fsf@gmail.com> (George Clemmer's message of "Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:18:08 -0400") List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "bug-Guix" To: George Clemmer Cc: 31786@debbugs.gnu.org Hi George, George Clemmer skribis: > Leo Famulari writes: > >> On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 08:54:49AM +0200, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: >>> The other aspect, from a maintenance and readability viewpoint, is that >>> we could quickly add up lots of explanations that we=E2=80=99ll have to= keep >>> up-to-date and that may make more important information harder to find. >> >> Yeah, I'm worried about this too. It's tough to strike the correct >> balance. > > IMO Guix is great for hackers, maintainers and sysops. The doc is > appropriate for such users, well done, spare, and already voluminous. > > This footnote suggestion, and others rejected in the past, are motivated > by my assumption that you will want to make Guix attractive to less > sophisticated users. > > Maybe my assumption is wrong? Maybe you want only "elite" users? No, definitely not; I=E2=80=99m sorry if this is the impression this gave. Like I wrote, my main concern is about keeping the documentation focused and maintainable. Sometimes we have to document things that are technically outside of Guix because there=E2=80=99s no real canonical documentation and because users would be impaired without it=E2=80=94I=E2= =80=99m thinking for instance of bits in the =E2=80=9CPreparing for Installation=E2= =80=9D section. In this case, we=E2=80=99d be documenting something that=E2=80=99s both out= side of Guix and not vital for routine usage, and that=E2=80=99s mostly covered by the Autoconf manual. Hence my reluctance. I hope that makes sense. Ludo=E2=80=99.