From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id SORaFK3qY18zaAAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 17 Sep 2020 23:01:01 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id YKc9EK3qY18DIQAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 17 Sep 2020 23:01:01 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C184E940703 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 2020 23:01:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:37830 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kJ2tf-0007Nr-La for larch@yhetil.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2020 19:00:59 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57926) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kJ2sl-0007LS-4z for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2020 19:00:05 -0400 Received: from world.peace.net ([64.112.178.59]:41994) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kJ2sd-0006BW-4T for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2020 19:00:00 -0400 Received: from mhw by world.peace.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kJ2sZ-00081X-8F; Thu, 17 Sep 2020 18:59:51 -0400 From: Mark H Weaver To: Andreas Enge , guix-devel@gnu.org Subject: Re: Packaging pd In-Reply-To: <20200903110907.GA6487@jurong> References: <20200903110907.GA6487@jurong> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2020 18:58:33 -0400 Message-ID: <87k0ws80y3.fsf@netris.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=64.112.178.59; envelope-from=mhw@netris.org; helo=world.peace.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/17 18:59:52 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.01 X-TUID: Q6jxilXOOcv3 Andreas Enge writes: > I knew that three letter software names are bad, but there is worse - > two letter software names! It gets even worse: one letter package names. Of course there's 'r', but it's obviously very well established, and grandfathered in, so that's fine. However, in 2017 an obscure shell named 's' was added to Guix. I intervened and got it renamed to 's-shell' in Guix. More recently, when I wasn't paying attention, a package called 'v' was added to Guix. I really wish it hadn't been. Most of the arguments I made against 's' apply to 'v' as well: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2017-06/msg00066.html Mark