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From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, Alex Kost <alezost@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Font package naming convention
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2014 18:18:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ioixo71g.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141101095205.GB30939@debian> (Andreas Enge's message of "Sat, 1 Nov 2014 10:52:05 +0100")

Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr> skribis:

> On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 10:30:24PM +0100, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
>> Furthermore, unlike software packages, what matters here is the actual
>> name of the font or font collection, not the “system name” or “tarball
>> name.”
>> Here’s a possible answer to the above questions, informally:
>>   • Use ‘font-FOUNDRY-FAMILY’ or ‘font-FAMILY’ or
>>     ‘font-FOUNDRY-COLLECTION’ or ‘font-COLLECTION’ as the name.
>>     Examples: ‘font-bitstream-vera’, ‘font-liberation’, ‘font-unifont’.
>>   • Use ‘font-.*-FORMAT’ only when there happens to be separate packages
>>     for separate formats.  FORMAT would be the format short name, like
>>     ‘ttf’, ‘otf’, ‘type1’.
>> WDYT, fellow nitpickers?  :-)
>
> This sounds like quite an interesting solution - so we would completely drop
> the upstream package name and only go for the font name (which would normally
> be some part of the upstream package name, I suppose).
>
> What would be the role of FOUNDRY? Should we try to find it out for most
> fonts, or would it only be there to avoid confusions for fonts such as
> Garamond?

Some fonts are created by hobbyists rather than a foundry.

Some of the fonts created by foundries are often referred to it using
the foundry’s name, such as “Bitstream Vera”; there are also
counter-examples, like Gentium, Charis, etc. (by SIL.)

So, again very informally, I would suggest to use the foundry name in
cases where people expect to see it, and in cases where it removes
ambiguity with similarly-named fonts.

What do people think?

>> IMO the goal should be to find something convenient for users.
>> Sometimes, maybe, there will be several valid choices for the package
>> name, but that’s fine, I think.
>
> Maybe we could refine the rules once an ambiguity occurs and see if we can
> lift it.

Sure.

> One suggestion: I would like to keep the names of the x.org fonts as they
> are, following the software package guidelines. I think they are more software
> than fonts that actual users would employ to typeset their documents.

Yes, I agree.

Thanks,
Ludo’.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-02 17:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-28  6:53 [PATCH 2/2] gnu: Add 'ttf-liberation' Alex Kost
2014-10-28  8:10 ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-10-29 22:16   ` Andreas Enge
2014-10-30  7:27     ` Alex Kost
2014-10-30  7:56       ` Andreas Enge
2014-10-30 12:52         ` Alex Kost
2014-10-30 13:36           ` Andreas Enge
2014-10-30 18:55             ` Alex Kost
2014-10-30 17:20           ` Font package naming convention Ludovic Courtès
2014-10-30 17:32             ` Andreas Enge
2014-10-30 22:54               ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-10-30 18:55             ` Alex Kost
     [not found]               ` <20141030191743.GB19999@debian.eduroam.u-bordeaux.fr>
2014-10-30 22:02                 ` Alex Kost
2014-10-31 17:58                   ` Andreas Enge
2014-10-31 18:00                     ` Andreas Enge
2014-10-31 21:30                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-11-01  9:52                       ` Andreas Enge
2014-11-02 17:18                         ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2014-11-02 17:49                           ` Andreas Enge
2014-11-03  8:53                             ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-11-03  9:30                               ` Andreas Enge
2014-11-03 13:36                                 ` Alex Kost
2014-11-03 20:28                                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-11-19  9:01                                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-11-19 10:22                                   ` Andreas Enge
2014-11-20  7:09                                   ` Alex Kost
2014-11-23 20:13                                     ` [PATCH] gnu: Add 'font-liberation' Alex Kost
2014-11-24 14:12                                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-11-01  9:36                     ` Font package naming convention Alex Kost
2014-11-01  9:45                       ` Andreas Enge
2014-11-01 10:55                         ` Alex Kost

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