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dkim=pass header.d=a-rx.info header.s=zoho header.b=Cl+M1CQ4; arc=pass ("zohomail.com:s=zohoarc:i=1"); dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of help-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=help-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 13819A0A9 X-Spam-Score: -3.12 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: E/EiBldYX7Cl OK, many thanks. fine with sway - I wanted to switch to wayland some time anyway. And I will give eglogind a try. I did see another thread - after asking my question on this list - by the way: https://www.mail-archive.com/help-guix@gnu.org/msg11407.html and the consensus seems to be that this has never been easy: https://www.mail-archive.com/help-guix@gnu.org/msg11418.html "It has never been simple on Guix System to use xinit / startx,..." And I would really appreciate if some more care would be given to this: as much as I like the core ideas of guix, things like these I find discouraging / off putting - sorry to say this. -A Vagrant Cascadian writes: > On 2021-08-21, Andreas Reuleaux wrote: >> I am fairly new to guix, thus bear with me please. > > Welcome! > >> I want to start X on my system with startx - i.e. log into my system >> just from a tty, and then start X by hand (and i3 will be my window >> manager, I just have an .xsession file in my $HOME, where I start i3) >> - I do not want any desktop-services / desktop-manager / graphical login manager >> (this may seem old school - but has worked fine for me for years >> under debian). >> >> I cannot really get this working though: I have xinit installed (with >> startx therein, cf. my config below), but when I >> >> startx >> >> on the command line, I get this: >> >> xauth: file /home/rx/.serverauth.1957 does not exist > ... > > I struggled with this for a bit and eventually gave up. In theory, if > you make enough executables setuid, you might be able to get startx to > work properly (other distros such as Debian make startx work by > installing various executables setuid). > > In the end, I switched using sway, which is very similar to i3 but uses > wayland natively instead of X11 (though there are still X11 > compatibility layers). The main thing is you need to have elogind > configured in your system, and then you can login and run "exec sway" > and it "just works". > > So, not exactly a direct answer to your question, but maybe it is a > workable alternative for you. > > > live well, > vagrant