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I=E2=80=99m interested in some of the Guix=20 ideas, but not ready to do a bare-metal install. I found the download page[1] and got a copy of the QEMU image,=20 then clicked "Installation instructions"[2]. These instructions=20 didn=E2=80=99t work, because they=E2=80=99re incomplete and/or unclear and/= or=20 wrong and/or not really installation instructions in the way one=20 might assume. Since I don=E2=80=99t really know anything about Guix=20 (which is why I=E2=80=99m reading the documentation and test driving it in= =20 a VM), I=E2=80=99m not sure which one-or-more of these it may be. Specifically: > To enable SSH inside a VM you need to add an SSH server like=20 > openssh-service-type to your VM (see openssh-service-type). The documentation doesn=E2=80=99t say *how* to do that. The=20 openssh-service-type link[3] takes me to a large page of code=20 documentation for every possible networking service, instead of=20 the openssh-service-type one specifically. This documentation=20 describes *what* the service type and its many configuration=20 options is, but is silent on *how* to make use of it. It continues: > In addition you need to forward the SSH port, 22 by default, to=20 > the host. You can do this with > $(guix system vm config.scm) -nic=20 > user,model=3Dvirtio-net-pci,hostfwd=3Dtcp::10022-:22 I=E2=80=99m really not sure what this is supposed to be doing. It can=E2= =80=99t=20 run on my Debian host, since there=E2=80=99s no guix command. It errors=20 inside the VM, since it can=E2=80=99t find a config.scm file; and I don=E2= =80=99t=20 see an obvious config.scm file anywhere inside the VM that it=20 might be looking for. I *suspect* that this documentation is actually targeted at=20 running a Guix System VM on an existing Guix host. Which is a=20 chicken-and-egg problem, if I=E2=80=99ve already installed Guix, I don=E2= =80=99t=20 need to follow instructions to install it. [1]: https://guix.gnu.org/en/download/ [2]:=20 https://guix.gnu.org/manual/en/html_node/Running-Guix-in-a-VM.html [3]:=20 https://guix.gnu.org/manual/en/html_node/Networking-Services.html