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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 3B87A6CD36 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx12.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -11.22 X-Spam-Score: -11.22 X-TUID: pUO5xlIkttDx Hello, Andr=C3=A9 Batista skribis: >> Yes, it works whether or not one has commit rights, and I agree that it >> could be helpful here. > > Should I send a patch adding myself to the team? What is expected from > team members? Yes, you can send a patch. Team members are expected to coordinate and work together (e.g., for review) on everything in the team=E2=80=99s scope, onboard new members will= ing to help, and coordinate with the rest of the project. (That doesn=E2=80=99t even say this is something we should fix!) >> Ian, what about teaming up with other Firefox derivative maintainers? >> I=E2=80=99m thinking notably of Andr=C3=A9 and Cl=C3=A9ment who=E2=80=99= ve worked on Tor Browser >> on Mullvad Browser, Mark H Weaver who=E2=80=99s been maintaining IceCat,= and >> perhaps Jonathan who=E2=80=99s been taking care of IceDove (Cc=E2=80=99d= )? >>=20 >> Of course, each of these package is different but they=E2=80=99re in the= same >> area so it probably makes sense to share reviewing efforts here. > > I was reticent on this mainly because (i) I have never actually used > LibreWolf and I don't have a clear picture of it besides it being a > "Firefox + Arkenfox - Mozilla Branding" [1](?); (ii) I expect that most > of these security (aka urgent) patches will land on the same day on a > regular basis for all 4 browsers and given Mullvad and TorBrowser > sources will be late in the game, I'll probably not be able to do such > a timely (yet again, urgent) review, which could add to Ian's > frustration, instead of relieving it; and (iii) AFAIUI, LibreWolf moves > at a faster pace, which adds to my concern of not being able to keep up > in the long run. > > That being said, given those patches have remained unreviewed for weeks > in a row, I guess I can at least help improve the current situation and > give commiters some more confidence that a given patch will not break > hell loose when commited and so I'm willing to help with these reviews. > However, I cannot promise to maintain it if/when Ian's lead happens to > go missing. Sure. The goal is to create a group of people with similar interests and a commitment to help together (of course team members can resign anytime they feel they will no longer be able to honor that commitment). Surely you=E2=80=99d do a better job at reviewing LibreWolf patches than my= self, say, thanks to the experience you have with Tor Browser. > One question in that regard: is there any difference between reviewing > through QA's web interface and sending mail commands to debbugs' > control? Is any of them preferable? I'd rather use the mail interface if > that's enough. The interface at shows results from automated builds, as an aid for reviewers. The actual interface for reviews remains email. HTH! Ludo=E2=80=99.