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Resent-From: Antero Mejr Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2024 21:42:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 73282 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Rutherther Cc: 73282@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 73282-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B73282.17303244937531 (code B ref 73282); Wed, 30 Oct 2024 21:42:02 +0000 Received: (at 73282) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Oct 2024 21:41:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37669 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1t6GRY-0001xP-W3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Oct 2024 17:41:33 -0400 Received: from sender4-op-o15.zoho.com ([136.143.188.15]:17523) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1t6GRX-0001xJ-B1 for 73282@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Oct 2024 17:41:32 -0400 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1730324488; cv=none; d=zohomail.com; s=zohoarc; b=Dx2VsycvQbeqRZA+zzBexfGgyWebNCwmCVlpNe6x0M2XP+QY8C+NfC1VN8wSj0gYIs1GWDoajNYU1r2hkMRUwYR+jIV+wn8GTTiXbVVyyZYC62BVCs4i0NoleFubZNUGcTh/EiJQbgbBvT18tdjOkixxxCRuD5Bz6P3OF0de0Ps= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zohomail.com; s=zohoarc; t=1730324488; h=Content-Type:Cc:Cc:Date:Date:From:From:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Message-ID:References:Subject:Subject:To:To:Message-Id:Reply-To; bh=6T806PyW+yeSxlQwXKiJQxR6JKmO9DLfthRnET5sUpY=; b=S/B0HdL355NTE8JXj0z/se77xdB+HhA/mP49+uRcoJPPstIeKCZikFG54lwNvw6ail52g+8Xdl29JS9ZBVyDfj5orKR+fzAw8rVoJfqVKzCpbKqAentf9nxrLB78qKtxResyG83zSNoNkXhrbChpOECXy60Es+i03vVdWzuvh1o= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.zohomail.com; dkim=pass header.i=antr.me; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=mail@antr.me; dmarc=pass header.from= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1730324488; s=zmail; d=antr.me; i=mail@antr.me; h=From:From:To:To:Cc:Cc:Subject:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:Reply-To; bh=6T806PyW+yeSxlQwXKiJQxR6JKmO9DLfthRnET5sUpY=; b=JcM891czffcy7GQkfc3u+3ZW2SV9N2BdaylSMSz1zWWZ4c7yC/84D4P938tKuQQA 0R/Ny52ZPxPPBIhPQj4qWlnzOTwn6DGnxHqNaH/WsPqX709iT/tGuw4FPAl6PkYjiwe Sc1zZ6P1ekusKz2qaDETfaWGtpsURyERlhUmoDEU= Received: by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 1730324486267283.8225413036696; Wed, 30 Oct 2024 14:41:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Antero Mejr In-Reply-To: <87ttctxqqt.fsf@ditigal.xyz> (rutherther@ditigal.xyz's message of "Wed, 30 Oct 2024 21:47:22 +0100") References: <8734kdcuej.fsf@ditigal.xyz> <87msilsa1e.fsf@antr.me> <87ttctxqqt.fsf@ditigal.xyz> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2024 21:41:21 +0000 Message-ID: <87ikt9s1z2.fsf@antr.me> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-ZohoMailClient: External X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: guix-patches@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -0.60 X-Spam-Score: -0.60 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: A3373678B7 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx12.migadu.com X-TUID: xQpgk6cha42M Rutherther writes: > Nope, I don't have them in my profile and I can control volume and > switch outputs just fine through pavucontrol. pavucontrol is a Pulseaudio program that operates on top of the pipewire-pulse compatibility layer. wpctl is the native program that interacts with the pipewire library directly. So it would make sense to add the native packages to the profile, because users should not be expected to have control programs for other sound servers installed. To put it another way: if a daemon is running that is likely to require control commands from the user, the packages to issue those control commands should be added to the profile.