Replace Icedove for Thunderbird

Replace Icedove for Thunderbird

[Sergio Pastor Pérez]

Hello.

Is it possible to have Thunderbird packaged in Guix? If so, why are we 
still using Icedove?

The Debian wiki says that the trademark issues with Thunderbird have 
been resolved:
https://wiki.debian.org/Thunderbird

Regards,
Sergio

Re: Replace Icedove for Thunderbird

[Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.]

Hi Sergio,

On Sun, Nov 03 2024, Sergio Pastor Pérez wrote:

> The Debian wiki says that the trademark issues with Thunderbird have
> been resolved:

As far as I know, the Mozilla Foundation simply accepted the Debian
builds as official.  I am not sure the same is true for GNU Guix.

Please consider this exerpt from Mozilla's Trademark policy: [1]

    You Must:

    Choose branding, logos, and trademarks that denotes your own unique
    identity so as to clearly signal to users that there is no
    affiliation with or endorsement by Mozilla.

    You Must NOT:

    Use any Mozilla trademark or any part of any Mozilla trademark to
    incorrectly suggest or give the impression your software is actually
    published by, affiliated with, or endorsed by Mozilla.

Kind regards
Felix

P.S. I have no legal training. Please do not rely on this message.

[1] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/foundation/trademarks/policy/

Re: Replace Icedove for Thunderbird

[Ian Eure]

Hi Felix, Sergio,

Felix Lechner via "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System 
distribution." <guix-devel@gnu.org> writes:

> Hi Sergio,
>
> On Sun, Nov 03 2024, Sergio Pastor Pérez wrote:
>
>> The Debian wiki says that the trademark issues with Thunderbird 
>> have
>> been resolved:
>
> As far as I know, the Mozilla Foundation simply accepted the 
> Debian
> builds as official.  I am not sure the same is true for GNU 
> Guix.
>

I don’t know about Thunderbird, but the maintainer of the Firefox 
packages in Debian is a Mozilla employee, which is likely why the 
trademark policy doesn’t apply there.

  — Ian

Re: Replace Icedove for Thunderbird

[Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.]

Hi Sergio,

On Sun, Nov 03 2024, Sergio Pastor Pérez wrote:

> The Debian wiki says that the trademark issues with Thunderbird have
> been resolved:

As far as I know, the Mozilla Foundation simply accepted the Debian
builds as official.  I am not sure the same is true for GNU Guix.

Please consider this exerpt from Mozilla's Trademark policy: [1]

    You Must:

    Choose branding, logos, and trademarks that denotes your own unique
    identity so as to clearly signal to users that there is no
    affiliation with or endorsement by Mozilla.

    You Must NOT:

    Use any Mozilla trademark or any part of any Mozilla trademark to
    incorrectly suggest or give the impression your software is actually
    published by, affiliated with, or endorsed by Mozilla.

Kind regards
Felix

P.S. I have no legal training. Please do not rely on this message.

[1] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/foundation/trademarks/policy/