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Josselin Poiret skribis: >> Thirdly, formats are apparently not handled right. The main issue is with >> hyphenation (hence the cc on an open issue): hyphenation patterns need t= o be >> compiled into the formats to be available in documents, so the format fi= les >> should be built depending on which `texlive-hyphen-something` packages a= re >> installed. Currently this is not the case: >> >> ``` >> $ guix shell --pure coreutils texlive-base texlive-latex-base -- /bin/sh= -c 'realpath $GUIX_TEXMF/web2c/pdflatex.fmt' >> /gnu/store/m1vh5mm4gjlqzaylfxmxbx5g3j20k8wn-texlive-latex-base-59745/sha= re/texmf-dist/web2c/pdflatex.fmt >> $ guix shell --pure coreutils texlive-base texlive-latex-base texlive-hy= phen-base texlive-hyphen-french -- /bin/sh -c 'realpath $GUIX_TEXMF/web2c/p= dflatex.fmt' >> /gnu/store/m1vh5mm4gjlqzaylfxmxbx5g3j20k8wn-texlive-latex-base-59745/sha= re/texmf-dist/web2c/pdflatex.fmt >> ``` >> >> If the format is always the same, then no modular installation can do any >> hyphenation, as reported in https://issues.guix.gnu.org/56556. There mig= ht be >> other things than hyphenation that require similar treatment. > > I don't really know how we could fix this: maybe build the formats with > all the hyphenation packages enabled? The intertubes suggest running =E2=80=98fmtutil --all=E2=80=99 to get hyphe= nations packages straight. Is this something we should do in the TeX=C2=A0Live profile hook for example? Emmanuel, is this what you had in mind when you wrote about compilation of hyphenation patterns above? (Cc=E2=80=99ing Maxim who has experience with TeX=C2=A0Live.) Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.