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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 662A635752 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx12.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -9.64 X-Spam-Score: -9.64 X-TUID: mWvCQJujX26G Hi Sergio, Sergio Pastor P=C3=A9rez writes: > Hello Ian. > > I cannot help you since I don't have commit access. But I want=20 > to thank > you for your hard work, I'm currently using your package. > Thank you for the kind words, they truly mean a lot to me. Whatever the state of Guix proper, you can always find the current=20 version of LibreWolf in my personal channel[1], though I don=E2=80=99t=20 have a public substitute server, so long build times will await=20 you if you choose this route. > We should try to come up with a solution that alleviates the=20 > burden on > the maintainers. Given how often this issue arises, what if we=20 > try, as > a collective, to suggest new mechanisms that would improve the > situation? > > If I recall correctly, someone suggested having a development=20 > branch in > which, once the QA passes, the patches get automatically=20 > merged. I know > some people rose concerns about the slowness of the QA system=20 > for this > to be an effective solution, and there is also the issue=20 > ordering the > patch application. > > If the previous solution is ruled out, I would like to know the=20 > opinion > of the Guix community on a voting system. I'm imagining a system=20 > where > we reuse the mailing infrastructure we have, where each accepted=20 > mail in > the guix devel mailing list has 1 vote for a given patch, that=20 > way we > avoid multiple votes from the same entity and would allow people=20 > without > commit access, but active on the Guix development, to=20 > participate. So, > we could set up a threshold where if a patch gets 10 votes from > non-committers the merge would be done; preferably automated,=20 > but if it's > not possible, committers would know what is ready to be merged=20 > without > effort and what the community wants. > I=E2=80=99m not sure this would be effective, because the QA service is=20 unreliable. I regularly see patches which simply don=E2=80=99t get picked= =20 up by it, including many of my own. At other times, it lags very=20 far behind. I don=E2=80=99t think it=E2=80=99s reliable enough to be in th= e=20 critical path for anything. Guix is supposed to be a=20 rolling-release distro, so it feels strange to have a develop=20 branch which moves even faster. Thanks, =E2=80=94 Ian [1]: https://codeberg.org/ieure/atomized-guix