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From: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
To: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com>
Cc: Suhail Singh <suhailsingh247@gmail.com>,
	 Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net>,
	 guix-devel@gnu.org,  guix-maintainers@gnu.org,
	Cayetano Santos <csantosb@inventati.org>,
	 Efraim Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il>
Subject: Re: On the quest for a new release model
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2024 17:48:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h671j5s6.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bjxbu55j.fsf@gmail.com> (Maxim Cournoyer's message of "Mon, 16 Dec 2024 22:30:16 +0900")

Hi,

Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com> skribis:

> Efraim Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il> writes:
>
>> On Sun, Dec 15, 2024 at 03:21:44PM -0500, Suhail Singh wrote:
>>> Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net> writes:
>>>
>>> > Efraim Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il> writes:
>>> >
>>> >> Since, IMO, the major uses of the actual guix package is for the daemon
>>> >> and the installer, I think we could tag a minor release just about every
>>> >> time we bump the guix package.
>>>
>>> That's a sensible approach.  How should the discussion proceed further?
>>> Do we have a proxy to determine whether everyone who needs to be
>>> involved for consensus-based decision-making has weighed in?
>>
>> I'd argue that cutting releases is one of those specifically maintainer
>> duties but I'd love to hear from other people who disagree.
>
> I'd tend to agree.  A maintainer who doesn't cut releases or organize to
> make them happen is a poor maintainer (hello!).

Heheh.  :-)

As has been discussed multiple times at the Guix Days and on this list
(I think?), I believe what we need is a release team with rotating
duties.  That is, a bunch of 3–5 people commit to doing the work leading
to 1.5.0; then a new team (possibly with overlap) takes over for the
next version, and so on.

This is what NixOS has been doing for some time, for example, and it has
several advantages: it distributes responsibilities and power, and it
ensure everything is properly documented so people can actually carry
out the task.


As mentioned previously, I’m happy to mentor and help whoever steps up.
I know there are people up to the task; at least one person on the team
needs to have commit access, but apart from that, don’t be shy!

Our first exercise will be to make a “fake” release as a way to test
documentation and find out about missing bits and corner cases.

Ludo’.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-12-18 16:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-09 12:19 Discussion notes on releases and branches Andreas Enge
2023-02-12 21:13 ` Moving forward with teams and feature branches (was: Discussion notes on releases and branches) Josselin Poiret
2023-02-12 21:34   ` Andreas Enge
2023-02-13  9:32   ` Time for RFC? (was Re: Moving forward with teams and feature branches (was: Discussion notes on releases and branches)) zimoun
2023-02-13 14:04   ` bug#61475: Staging branch (was: Moving forward with teams and feature branches) Andreas Enge
2023-05-10  2:55     ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-13 14:07   ` Moving forward with teams and feature branches (was: Discussion notes on releases and branches) Andreas Enge
2023-02-14 19:12     ` Leo Famulari
2023-02-13  9:22 ` Release (was " Simon Tournier
2023-02-14 10:14 ` Rust team branch " Efraim Flashner
2023-02-14 16:36   ` Rust team branch Andreas Enge
2023-02-14 20:07     ` Efraim Flashner
2023-02-16 10:56       ` Andreas Enge
2023-02-14 16:36   ` Rust team branch (was Re: Discussion notes on releases and branches) Katherine Cox-Buday
2023-02-14 20:08     ` Efraim Flashner
2023-02-15 17:49       ` Katherine Cox-Buday
2023-03-17 15:24 ` Discussion notes on releases and branches Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2023-03-18 17:42   ` Leo Famulari
2024-12-13  8:37 ` On the quest for a new release model (was: Discussion notes on releases and branches) Cayetano Santos
2024-12-13 12:03   ` On the quest for a new release model Ricardo Wurmus
2024-12-13 13:01     ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-13 15:21       ` Greg Hogan
2024-12-13 15:52         ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-13 16:05           ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-13 16:28           ` Cayetano Santos
2024-12-13 17:21             ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-13 20:34               ` Cayetano Santos
2024-12-13 22:13               ` Ricardo Wurmus
2024-12-13 22:27                 ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-13 23:08                 ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-12-14  1:38                   ` John Kehayias via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-12-14 17:18                     ` kiasoc5
2024-12-14 18:00                     ` Cayetano Santos
2024-12-14 20:53                   ` Attila Lendvai
2024-12-15  8:44     ` Efraim Flashner
2024-12-15 16:43       ` Ricardo Wurmus
2024-12-15 20:21         ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-15 22:49           ` Ricardo Wurmus
2024-12-15 23:33             ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-16  9:43           ` Efraim Flashner
2024-12-16 13:30             ` Maxim Cournoyer
2024-12-16 16:28               ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-18 16:48               ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2024-12-18 17:31                 ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-18 17:42                   ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-19 17:56                     ` Greg Hogan
2024-12-20 12:06                       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2024-12-21 13:18                         ` Andreas Enge
2024-12-20 22:07                       ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2024-12-19 18:03                 ` Greg Hogan
2024-12-20 12:17                   ` Maxim Cournoyer
2024-12-16 10:47         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2024-12-16 16:14           ` Ricardo Wurmus
2024-12-18 18:54       ` Vagrant Cascadian
2024-12-13 16:04   ` Simon Josefsson via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-12-13 17:47     ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-13 20:14       ` Tomas Volf
2024-12-13 22:13         ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-14  8:59           ` Ricardo Wurmus
2024-12-14 14:23             ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-14 12:26           ` Tomas Volf
2024-12-14 14:49             ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-14  8:53     ` Ricardo Wurmus
2024-12-14 17:21       ` Splitting up Guix channel (was: On the quest for a new release model) Suhail Singh

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