* "Perfect Setup" for hacking on Nix? @ 2017-04-02 1:13 Chris Marusich 2017-04-02 9:33 ` Ludovic Courtès 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Chris Marusich @ 2017-04-02 1:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: guix-devel [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 680 bytes --] Hi, The Guix manual has a fantastic section on the "Perfect Setup" for hacking on Guix ((guix) The Perfect Setup). This section provides excellent guidance for a newbie on how they can set up their development environment for hacking on Guix. I found it tremendously useful when I was starting out as a Guile and Guix newbie. I have sometimes found myself looking at the Nix source code that is embedded in the Guix repository. However, I don't have a lot of experience with C++, so I don't really know how I should set up my development environment for hacking on (or just browsing) that code. So, what's the "Perfect Setup" for hacking on Nix? -- Chris [-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 832 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: "Perfect Setup" for hacking on Nix? 2017-04-02 1:13 "Perfect Setup" for hacking on Nix? Chris Marusich @ 2017-04-02 9:33 ` Ludovic Courtès 2017-04-03 6:36 ` Thomas Danckaert 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2017-04-02 9:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Chris Marusich; +Cc: guix-devel Chris Marusich <cmmarusich@gmail.com> skribis: > The Guix manual has a fantastic section on the "Perfect Setup" for > hacking on Guix ((guix) The Perfect Setup). This section provides > excellent guidance for a newbie on how they can set up their development > environment for hacking on Guix. I found it tremendously useful when I > was starting out as a Guile and Guix newbie. > > I have sometimes found myself looking at the Nix source code that is > embedded in the Guix repository. However, I don't have a lot of > experience with C++, so I don't really know how I should set up my > development environment for hacking on (or just browsing) that code. > > So, what's the "Perfect Setup" for hacking on Nix? Good question! :-) I use Emacs without any of the fancy things. M-x compile, M-x grep, M-x rgrep, xgtags.el (for GNU GLOBAL tags) are good enough for me. That said, I’d be happy to hear about new tricks! Does Semantic work well these days? Ludo’. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: "Perfect Setup" for hacking on Nix? 2017-04-02 9:33 ` Ludovic Courtès @ 2017-04-03 6:36 ` Thomas Danckaert 2017-05-07 21:06 ` Chris Marusich 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Thomas Danckaert @ 2017-04-03 6:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ludo; +Cc: guix-devel From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) Subject: Re: "Perfect Setup" for hacking on Nix? Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2017 11:33:16 +0200 >> I have sometimes found myself looking at the Nix source code that >> is >> embedded in the Guix repository. However, I don't have a lot of >> experience with C++, so I don't really know how I should set up my >> development environment for hacking on (or just browsing) that >> code. >> >> So, what's the "Perfect Setup" for hacking on Nix? > > Good question! :-) I use Emacs without any of the fancy things. > M-x > compile, M-x grep, M-x rgrep, xgtags.el (for GNU GLOBAL tags) are > good > enough for me. > > That said, I’d be happy to hear about new tricks! Does Semantic > work > well these days? I'm quite happy with it (have been, for a number of years already!). It's code analysis is not perfect (e.g. it doesn't always distinguish different symbols with the same name), but helps a lot. It can take you to function definitions and declarations, show all uses of a function or variable, display function signatures etc. I did have to disable Semantic for Scheme buffers, like this: (add-to-list 'semantic-inhibit-functions (lambda () (member major-mode '(scheme-mode)))) Otherwise, I get constant debugger prompts from the semantic parser when working with (Guile) Scheme files. I didn't submit a bug report so far, because I'm not sure if it's purely a bug in Semantic, or if there's some interference with Geiser. For really excellent code analysis of even very messy C and C++ code, I recommend KDevelop (I tend to use it just to explore and find my way around a code base, and then use Emacs for actual editing). Thomas ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: "Perfect Setup" for hacking on Nix? 2017-04-03 6:36 ` Thomas Danckaert @ 2017-05-07 21:06 ` Chris Marusich 2017-05-08 14:22 ` Ludovic Courtès 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Chris Marusich @ 2017-05-07 21:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Thomas Danckaert; +Cc: guix-devel [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2151 bytes --] Thomas Danckaert <post@thomasdanckaert.be> writes: > From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) > Subject: Re: "Perfect Setup" for hacking on Nix? > Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2017 11:33:16 +0200 > >>> I have sometimes found myself looking at the Nix source code that >>> is >>> embedded in the Guix repository. However, I don't have a lot of >>> experience with C++, so I don't really know how I should set up my >>> development environment for hacking on (or just browsing) that >>> code. >>> >>> So, what's the "Perfect Setup" for hacking on Nix? >> >> Good question! :-) I use Emacs without any of the fancy things. >> M-x >> compile, M-x grep, M-x rgrep, xgtags.el (for GNU GLOBAL tags) are >> good >> enough for me. >> >> That said, I’d be happy to hear about new tricks! Does Semantic >> work >> well these days? > > I'm quite happy with it (have been, for a number of years already!). > It's code analysis is not perfect (e.g. it doesn't always distinguish > different symbols with the same name), but helps a lot. It can take > you to function definitions and declarations, show all uses of a > function or variable, display function signatures etc. > > I did have to disable Semantic for Scheme buffers, like this: > > (add-to-list 'semantic-inhibit-functions > (lambda () (member major-mode '(scheme-mode)))) > > Otherwise, I get constant debugger prompts from the semantic parser > when working with (Guile) Scheme files. I didn't submit a bug report > so far, because I'm not sure if it's purely a bug in Semantic, or if > there's some interference with Geiser. > > For really excellent code analysis of even very messy C and C++ code, > I recommend KDevelop (I tend to use it just to explore and find my way > around a code base, and then use Emacs for actual editing). > > Thomas > I asked on nix-dev, and the (limited) response was basically that you should use whatever works best for you: https://mailman.science.uu.nl/pipermail/nix-dev/2017-April/023416.html I guess that means I should look into a C++ IDE (Eclipse?) or the emacs ecosystem for C/C++. -- Chris [-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 832 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: "Perfect Setup" for hacking on Nix? 2017-05-07 21:06 ` Chris Marusich @ 2017-05-08 14:22 ` Ludovic Courtès 2017-05-10 7:31 ` Chris Marusich 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2017-05-08 14:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Chris Marusich; +Cc: guix-devel, Thomas Danckaert Hi, Chris Marusich <cmmarusich@gmail.com> skribis: > I asked on nix-dev, and the (limited) response was basically that you > should use whatever works best for you: > > https://mailman.science.uu.nl/pipermail/nix-dev/2017-April/023416.html > > I guess that means I should look into a C++ IDE (Eclipse?) or the emacs > ecosystem for C/C++. Yeah. As Thomas wrote, Semantic (part of Emacs) or KDEvelop are your best bets. But fundamentally, C++ doesn’t lend itself to live coding the way Lisp does, so you’ll probably never have an environment close to the Emacs/Geiser combo. Ludo’. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: "Perfect Setup" for hacking on Nix? 2017-05-08 14:22 ` Ludovic Courtès @ 2017-05-10 7:31 ` Chris Marusich 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Chris Marusich @ 2017-05-10 7:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ludovic Courtès; +Cc: guix-devel, Thomas Danckaert [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 813 bytes --] ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: > Hi, > > Chris Marusich <cmmarusich@gmail.com> skribis: > >> I asked on nix-dev, and the (limited) response was basically that you >> should use whatever works best for you: >> >> https://mailman.science.uu.nl/pipermail/nix-dev/2017-April/023416.html >> >> I guess that means I should look into a C++ IDE (Eclipse?) or the emacs >> ecosystem for C/C++. > > Yeah. As Thomas wrote, Semantic (part of Emacs) or KDEvelop are your > best bets. > > But fundamentally, C++ doesn’t lend itself to live coding the way Lisp > does, so you’ll probably never have an environment close to the > Emacs/Geiser combo. Oh yeah, thank you for reminding me about Semantic and KDEvelop. I'll check those out. Thank you for the recommendations! -- Chris [-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 832 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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