From: Katherine Cox-Buday <cox.katherine.e@gmail.com>
To: Pjotr Prins <pjotr.public12@thebird.nl>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Packaging a free Firefox
Date: Wed, 16 May 2018 10:44:20 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fu2rip0r.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180506125312.aadd4fixeungiwv6@thebird.nl> (Pjotr Prins's message of "Sun, 6 May 2018 14:53:12 +0200")
Pjotr Prins <pjotr.public12@thebird.nl> writes:
>> Not packaging FF or crippling FF is a no-go! Doing so will discourage
>> users from using GuixSD and Free Software.
As an anecdote with a data-point of one, I uninstalled GuixSD because I
suddenly needed the machine I was running it on to be my daily driver. I
had been attempting to package Firefox whenever I had a spare moment,
but I ran out of time and needed it to work as I didn't have time to
migrate all the machines I use to a libre-friendly browser (nor am I
sure I want to).
> That is an interesting one. GNU Guix, by virtue of it being a GNU
> project needs to abide by GNU free software terms. But even among core
> project members there are variations in thought in how to compromise
> with user requirements. A package manager that does not target user
> needs is a shitty package manager. This is one reason I champion the
> concept of channels:
>
> guix channel firefox http://some-origin/guix-channels/firefox
> guix package -i firefox
>
> so we can make GNU Guix as pure as possible and leverage less pure
> concepts (such as Firefox and Conda) into something that is not
> considered part of the core project. I think it would also render
> other maintenance benefits, for example versioning of old software
> would become much easier.
>
> guix channel ruby-1.8 http://some-origin/guix-channels/ruby-1.8
> guix package -i ruby
>
> I hope we get something like this at some point.
So do I. I completely agree with the points made elsewhere in this
thread about joining idealism with pragmatism, and I think channels are
a good way to allow people who want/need to run less-than-libre software
to remain with and support Guix, without forcing the project to adopt
software contrary to its goals.
--
Katherine
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-05-16 15:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-05-02 21:06 Packaging a free Firefox Clément Lassieur
2018-05-02 21:10 ` Clément Lassieur
2018-05-03 5:00 ` Nils Gillmann
2018-05-03 5:06 ` Nils Gillmann
2018-05-03 5:09 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-05-03 14:29 ` next browser (was: Packaging a free Firefox) Jack Hill
2018-05-03 14:35 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-05-03 20:23 ` Jack Hill
2018-05-04 3:36 ` Andy Patterson
2018-05-09 16:45 ` Pierre Neidhardt
[not found] ` <20180510020041.1e8b3956@uwaterloo.ca>
[not found] ` <87d0y3hije.fsf@gmail.com>
2018-05-10 14:04 ` ajpatter
2018-05-10 14:36 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-05-11 5:00 ` Andy Patterson
2018-05-19 19:26 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-05-24 9:53 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-05-24 14:18 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-05-24 15:33 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-05-24 16:44 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-05-24 20:37 ` Ricardo Wurmus
[not found] ` <87bmdnhhu8.fsf@gmail.com>
2018-05-10 14:04 ` ajpatter
2018-05-03 6:06 ` Packaging a free Firefox Chris Marusich
2018-05-03 9:53 ` Pjotr Prins
2018-05-03 10:56 ` Mathieu Othacehe
2018-05-11 14:54 ` Pjotr Prins
2018-05-03 17:59 ` Mike Gerwitz
2018-05-04 14:24 ` Pjotr Prins
2018-05-04 16:07 ` Nils Gillmann
2018-05-04 16:27 ` Mike Gerwitz
2018-05-05 12:26 ` Pjotr Prins
2018-05-15 7:10 ` Pjotr Prins
2018-05-15 8:57 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-05-15 10:13 ` Gábor Boskovits
2018-05-16 17:27 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-05-15 16:35 ` Mike Gerwitz
2018-05-17 11:28 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-05-03 19:07 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-05-03 20:45 ` Clément Lassieur
2018-05-12 13:28 ` Clément Lassieur
2018-05-05 22:06 ` Adonay Felipe Nogueira
2018-05-06 1:24 ` Mike Gerwitz
2018-05-06 6:01 ` Nils Gillmann
2018-05-06 13:58 ` Mike Gerwitz
2018-05-06 16:35 ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-05-06 9:48 ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-05-06 12:53 ` Pjotr Prins
2018-05-16 15:44 ` Katherine Cox-Buday [this message]
2018-05-16 16:10 ` Tonton
2018-05-16 17:56 ` Katherine Cox-Buday
2018-05-17 11:34 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-05-17 13:47 ` Nils Gillmann
2018-05-17 15:10 ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2018-05-17 15:29 ` Nils Gillmann
2018-05-17 17:57 ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2018-05-18 4:14 ` Pjotr Prins
2018-05-21 4:58 ` Pjotr Prins
2018-05-21 20:07 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-05-22 4:18 ` Pjotr Prins
2018-05-22 19:05 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-07-31 1:51 ` Pjotr Prins
2018-08-01 0:58 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-05-21 20:09 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-05-22 3:55 ` Alex Vong
2018-05-18 5:19 ` Mike Gerwitz
2018-05-18 4:25 ` Pjotr Prins
2018-05-16 19:07 ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2018-05-16 19:54 ` Oleg Pykhalov
2018-05-16 20:50 ` Katherine Cox-Buday
2018-05-17 1:26 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-05-17 8:21 ` Thorsten Wilms
2018-05-17 11:36 ` Katherine Cox-Buday
2018-05-06 14:05 ` Mike Gerwitz
2018-05-06 15:32 ` Pjotr Prins
2018-05-06 16:33 ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-05-07 0:36 ` Mike Gerwitz
2018-05-07 6:42 ` jah
2018-05-07 16:30 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-05-08 8:36 ` Pjotr Prins
2018-05-08 0:06 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-05-08 0:20 ` Mark H Weaver
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