From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Mark H Weaver Subject: Re: Promoting the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines? Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 22:58:57 -0400 Message-ID: <87ftwl7bar.fsf@netris.org> References: <3893574.yNgoui0T1j@aleksandar-ixtreme-m5740> <1605080.KxgDGXkh13@aleksandar-ixtreme-m5740> <20181031.144849.1111979766694989577.post@thomasdanckaert.be> <10858640.2HxlCizZQU@aleksandar-ixtreme-m5740> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59247) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gI3DC-0007T6-Fe for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 22:59:59 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gI3D4-0000it-Nq for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 22:59:58 -0400 Received: from world.peace.net ([64.112.178.59]:39134) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gI3D1-0000f3-9G for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 22:59:48 -0400 In-Reply-To: <10858640.2HxlCizZQU@aleksandar-ixtreme-m5740> (HiPhish's message of "Wed, 31 Oct 2018 15:55:14 +0100") List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: HiPhish Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, Thomas Danckaert HiPhish writes: > Oh sure, I would have no issue working with people I disagree with, but the > topic here is adopting the GKCG over the CC. The CC allows the maintainers to > remove me from contributing, which is the part I and others are taking issue > with. As has been mentioned elsewhere, this is nothing new, and in fact it's true of *every* free software project, whether it has a CoC or not. There's always someone who owns the domains and controls the infrastructure, and who will remove problematic participants if they cross a certain line. Where that line is depends on the project, but every project has one. I don't see any way to avoid this and still have a functional project when the trolls arrive. > This can be abused to sabotage the project Are you suggesting that Ludovic and Ricardo might sabotage Guix? Okay, let's think that through. If Ludovic and Ricardo started to abuse their power and become problematic, we could fork Guix and move to new infrastructure. That's the beauty of free software. Mark