From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Mark H Weaver Subject: Re: GNOME Desktop Date: Sun, 05 May 2019 17:09:28 -0400 Message-ID: <87ftpstxp8.fsf@netris.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:50785) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hNOPn-0004qt-38 for help-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 05 May 2019 17:11:20 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hNOPl-0007V5-PS for help-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 05 May 2019 17:11:19 -0400 Received: from world.peace.net ([64.112.178.59]:43318) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hNOPl-0007T4-LF for help-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 05 May 2019 17:11:17 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Dexter Morgan's message of "Sun, 5 May 2019 15:38:15 +0200") List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+gcggh-help-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" To: Dexter Morgan Cc: help-guix@gnu.org Hi Dexter, "Dexter Morgan" writes: > How can I use GNOME Core Applications > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME_Core_Applications) that are > missing in Guix System? I am quite frusturated and disappointed with > the GNOME Desktop in Guix. I can't even use a music player or a > calendar. I'm sorry to hear it. FWIW, we have a large selection of music players in Guix. Two that are built on GNOME libraries include 'rhythmbox' and 'lollypop', but there are many others, too many to list here. For calendaring programs, we currently have 'gnome-calendar' and 'evolution', and possibly others. > I thought I do not have deal with additional applications if > I use a Desktop Environment, but it seems GNOME Desktop in Guix is > incomplete. :(. Are there any tricks to enable and use these missing > applications please? Simply install your preferred applications to your user profile, or alternatively you could add them to the 'packages' field of your system profile. It's possible that our GNOME desktop should include more programs by default. Can you tell us specifically which programs you think should be added? In the area of music players and calendars, I suspect that no matter what choices we make here, a large percentage of our users will not want our default choices. Most people seem to have specific programs that they prefer to use, and there's not much agreement in these areas. Moreover, sadly, I get the impression that most of the younger generation prefer to use web-based Services as a Software Substitute (SaaSS)[1] for their music and calendaring needs. So, if we add a default music player and calendar, I suspect that for many (if not most) users, those defaults will merely be unwanted bloat. Some users will ask how to remove the defaults, to avoid repeatedly downloading substitutes for programs they don't want, which will be awkward. Given this, it seems a reasonable choice to let users explicitly install their preferred programs. Does that make sense? What do you think? Regards, Mark [1] https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/who-does-that-server-really-serve.en.html