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From: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
To: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com>
Cc: Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org>,
	45359-done@debbugs.gnu.org, 47458@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: [bug#45359] bug#47458: Terrible UX upgrading Emacs in Guix
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2021 10:04:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ft0djce0.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r1jxbyvj.fsf@gmail.com> (Maxim Cournoyer's message of "Mon, 29 Mar 2021 14:25:52 -0400")

Hello,

Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com> skribis:

> Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:

[...]

>> Ouch.  “It used to be” (speaking like a veteran :-)) that Emacs in Guix
>> would not use EMACSLOADPATH.  Then we switched to EMACSLOADPATH, which
>> had some advantages, but necessarily has this drawback.
>>
>> IIUC, <https://issues.guix.gnu.org/45359> is about possibly
>> backtracking.  Maxim, what’s the status of this one?
>
> It's abandoned, The MUMI tracker lacks the responses from Leo Prickler,
> but they had good arguments maintaining the status quo rather than going
> with the extra complexity.  It also wouldn't change the issue at hand;
> it'd merely prevent conflicts of *resources* files of Emacs packages
> (and somewhat integrate with the Emacs native package manager, while
> making the autoloading a bit slower).  It seems the price to pay is too
> high for such a small gain.  I'm closing it now.

I see, makes sense!

> On the other hand, this very problem was the motivation for this patch
> series here: https://issues.guix.gnu.org/43627, which would solve the
> issue ta hand.  You were skeptical of the benefits the last time you
> took a look at it; perhaps it's time to take a new look at it :-).

Ah!  Now I may have to revisit it, indeed.

Thanks for explaining!

Ludo’.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-03-30  8:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-29  2:02 bug#47458: Terrible UX upgrading Emacs in Guix Mark H Weaver
2021-03-29  8:07 ` Leo Prikler
2021-03-29  8:24   ` Maxime Devos
2021-03-29  8:43     ` Leo Prikler
2021-03-29 15:55 ` [bug#45359] " Ludovic Courtès
2021-03-29 15:55 ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-03-29 18:25   ` bug#45359: " Maxim Cournoyer
2020-12-22  3:28     ` [bug#45359] [PATCH]: Re-introduce Emacs packages specific installation prefix Maxim Cournoyer
2020-12-22  8:51       ` bug#45316: " Leo Prikler
2020-12-22 18:09         ` Maxim Cournoyer
2020-12-22 19:10           ` Leo Prikler
2020-12-26  5:01             ` Maxim Cournoyer
2020-12-26 10:56               ` Leo Prikler
2020-12-27  4:44                 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2020-12-27  8:46                   ` Leo Prikler
     [not found]       ` <handler.45359.D45359.161704236132600.notifdone@debbugs.gnu.org>
2021-03-29 18:45         ` [bug#45359] closed (Re: bug#47458: Terrible UX upgrading Emacs in Guix) Maxim Cournoyer
2021-03-29 18:48         ` bug#45359: [PATCH]: Re-introduce Emacs packages specific installation prefix Maxim Cournoyer
2021-03-30  8:04     ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-09-26  6:11 [bug#43627] [PATCH core-updates]: Add a 'append-separator?' field to the <search-path-specification> record Maxim Cournoyer
2020-09-26  6:14 ` [bug#43627] [PATCH core-updates 1/3] guix: Add an append-separator? " Maxim Cournoyer
2020-09-26  6:14   ` [bug#43627] [PATCH core-updates 2/3] gnu: emacs: Use the new append-separator? option to define its search path Maxim Cournoyer
2020-09-26  6:14   ` [bug#43627] [PATCH core-updates 3/3] Revert "emacs-build-system: Ensure the core libraries appear last in the load path." Maxim Cournoyer
2020-09-27 19:01 ` [bug#43627] [PATCH core-updates]: Add a 'append-separator?' field to the <search-path-specification> record Ludovic Courtès
2020-10-03 21:22   ` Maxim Cournoyer
2020-11-02 13:59     ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-11-08  5:49       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2021-03-30 15:51 ` [bug#43627] [PATCH core-updates v2 1/2] guix: Add an append-separator? " Maxim Cournoyer
2021-03-30 15:51   ` [bug#43627] [PATCH core-updates v2 2/2] gnu: emacs: Use the new append-separator? option to define its search path Maxim Cournoyer
2021-04-10 20:42   ` [bug#43627] [PATCH core-updates v2 1/2] guix: Add an append-separator? field to the <search-path-specification> record Ludovic Courtès
2021-05-20 14:24     ` bug#43627: " Maxim Cournoyer
2021-03-30 18:41 ` [bug#43627] [PATCH] gnu: emacs: Wrap EMACSLOADPATH Leo Prikler
2021-04-04  4:35   ` bug#47458: Terrible UX upgrading Emacs in Guix Maxim Cournoyer
2021-04-04  7:49     ` Leo Prikler
2021-04-06 12:09       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2021-04-06 15:49         ` Leo Prikler
2021-04-07 19:46           ` Maxim Cournoyer
2021-05-20 13:24             ` Maxim Cournoyer

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