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[66.158.156.86]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h21-20020ac87155000000b003b85ed59fa2sm4868495qtp.50.2023.02.27.08.29.42 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 27 Feb 2023 08:29:43 -0800 (PST) From: Maxim Cournoyer References: <87mt56gac6.fsf@gmail.com> <871qmg79u7.fsf@gnu.org> <87356whvaa.fsf@gmail.com> <875ybrmfuv.fsf@gmail.com> <87h6vbgpxf.fsf@gmail.com> <87y1onkwm0.fsf@gmail.com> <87cz5zgogo.fsf@gmail.com> <87zg8zjiya.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2023 11:29:42 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87zg8zjiya.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?="'s message of "Mon, 27 Feb 2023 15:12:29 +0100") Message-ID: <87fsarkr61.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-guix@gnu.org List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: X-Migadu-Queue-Id: EC1283B82A X-Spam-Score: -1.59 X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.59 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-TUID: guyPvblmRwhm Hi Ludovic, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > Maxim Cournoyer skribis: > >>> Quoting Ludo, >>> >>> (this is crucial for o= ur HPC >>> users, who routinely combine a whole bunch of options; you have= no idea >>> how far they go once you give them the tool :-)) >>> >>> >>> >>> and I agree with =C2=AB you have no idea how far they go once you give = them >>> the tool :-)) =C2=BB. >> >> It seems a bit hypothetical at this point, so I wouldn't want to cripple >> the design by it. > > It baffles me that you would consider other people=E2=80=99s experience as > =E2=80=9Chypothetical=E2=80=9D. It=E2=80=99s not, really. I didn't mean to dismiss other people experiences. The reason I'd like to orient this discussion toward use cases, is that these are easier to work with (more concrete/well defined) than user experiences. I'm sure people use it in many ways I can't think of, and what I'd like us to do is be able to put a finger on what these ways are, and how the current API could be improved in a way that satisfies them all (if possible). > The choice of words after the comma is also unfortunate in several ways. Noted. For the record I used in for its "flawed or imperfect" definition. --=20 Thanks, Maxim