State of core-updates

State of core-updates

[Andreas Enge]

Hello all,

let me start with a call for help! I realise that it takes me about one
week and something close to 100GB on my poor 2-core laptop to rebuild
the bulk of core-updates up to the packages in my profile, and that is not
sustainable. It also forces me to do a "guix gc" between two runs, with
the danger of either doing it too late and having to restart the builds
(lived experience, one week lost), or losing and having to recompile
store items that effectively have not changed.

So it would be nice if someone could set up a more complete job for
core-updates on cuirass or QA, and maybe write up a how-to to see which
packages work and which ones need more love, preferably by architecture.
(Without offense, I honestly do not see what
   https://ci.guix.gnu.org/jobset/core-updates
tells me. There is one evaluation with 290 succeeding and 300 failing
builds, and another one with 7 succeeding and 4 failing builds. Or are
these only the newly succeeding or failing builds? There is the dashboard
which gives visual clues, but can it be used to extract a list of
"originally failing" packages, in the sense that the compilation fails
itself instead of just a dependency - otherwise said, the failures highest
up in the package graph, which need to be worked on? On QA I think so far
there is nothing for core-updates, and the bordeaux build farm probably
could not keep up while also working on issues from the tracker. Generally
speaking, I think we need more tooling and documentation of the tooling if
feature branches are to become a thing.)

Since the bootstrapping seems to have stabilised, that would allow more
people to work on packages closer to the leaves, since most of what
currently builds would be available as substitutes from the build farm
without everybody needing to go through a one-week compilation project.

Here is my eclectic selection of packages I would add to the job:
- guix (builds)
- icecat (builds)
- ungoogled-chromium (probably also builds)
- openjdk (pulls in rust!, and builds)
- unison (pulls in ocaml, and builds)
- calibre (pulls in qt@5 and python; the former builds, the latter still
  has some problems, among which the python bindings to qt, and packages
  failing their tests even when updating to the latest release)
- pandoc (pulls in ghc, which currently fails its tests @9.2.5)
Please suggest more leaf packages that exercise your favourite missing
language or application domain!

Andreas

Re: State of core-updates

[Christopher Baines]

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Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr> writes:

> So it would be nice if someone could set up a more complete job for
> core-updates on cuirass or QA, and maybe write up a how-to to see which
> packages work and which ones need more love, preferably by architecture.
> (Without offense, I honestly do not see what
>    https://ci.guix.gnu.org/jobset/core-updates
> tells me. There is one evaluation with 290 succeeding and 300 failing
> builds, and another one with 7 succeeding and 4 failing builds. Or are
> these only the newly succeeding or failing builds? There is the dashboard
> which gives visual clues, but can it be used to extract a list of
> "originally failing" packages, in the sense that the compilation fails
> itself instead of just a dependency - otherwise said, the failures highest
> up in the package graph, which need to be worked on? On QA I think so far
> there is nothing for core-updates, and the bordeaux build farm probably
> could not keep up while also working on issues from the tracker. Generally
> speaking, I think we need more tooling and documentation of the tooling if
> feature branches are to become a thing.)

I configured QA to submit builds for core-updates a little while back,
currently it requires a code change [1].

1: https://git.cbaines.net/guix/qa-frontpage/commit/?id=39e9ec627faca95a7b43ff91e195ca9ab9846bf3

The builds are currently low priority compared to the patch testing ones
though, and there are more of these since raising the limit [2].

2: https://git.cbaines.net/guix/qa-frontpage/commit/?id=cd5687118de9858ac714d55800c2648969dbbb48

You can see the substitute availability for core-updates here [3].

3: https://data.qa.guix.gnu.org/repository/2/branch/core-updates/latest-processed-revision/package-substitute-availability

It's possible to alter the priority for builds, so we could try and get
some to happen for core-updates.

I'm going to try and put some more time in to getting the qa-frontpage
to display some useful information about branches.

Thanks,

Chris

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Re: State of core-updates

[Andreas Enge]

Hello Chris,

Am Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 06:24:38PM +0000 schrieb Christopher Baines:
> I configured QA to submit builds for core-updates a little while back,
> currently it requires a code change [1].
> 1: https://git.cbaines.net/guix/qa-frontpage/commit/?id=39e9ec627faca95a7b43ff91e195ca9ab9846bf3
> I'm going to try and put some more time in to getting the qa-frontpage
> to display some useful information about branches.

I saw you just deployed the change, great, thanks a lot!

> The builds are currently low priority compared to the patch testing ones
> though, and there are more of these since raising the limit [2].
> It's possible to alter the priority for builds, so we could try and get
> some to happen for core-updates.

Well, from an egoistical point of view concerning core-updates, I would
of course love to see that. But I think we should be consistent: Since we
made a pass through QA mandatory for patch pushing, we should give this
very high priority to avoid discouraging people. And at the time being,
we do not have enough build power on bordeaux to do both, even after doing
more builds on bayfront. I see a few options for the moment: use cuirass on
berlin for this core-updates merge; devote a few of the berlin machines
to QA (which I suppose could be difficult with respect to firewalls and
so on, the Berlin administrators would need to speak out about this);
add more build power to bordeaux locally (which may or may not be possible,
and in any case is not a short term solution).

Andreas

Re: State of core-updates

[Josselin Poiret]

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Hi Andreas,

Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr> writes:

> Hello all,
>
> let me start with a call for help! I realise that it takes me about one
> week and something close to 100GB on my poor 2-core laptop to rebuild
> the bulk of core-updates up to the packages in my profile, and that is not
> sustainable. It also forces me to do a "guix gc" between two runs, with
> the danger of either doing it too late and having to restart the builds
> (lived experience, one week lost), or losing and having to recompile
> store items that effectively have not changed.
>
> So it would be nice if someone could set up a more complete job for
> core-updates on cuirass or QA, and maybe write up a how-to to see which
> packages work and which ones need more love, preferably by architecture.

I agree, I've wanted to help but between substitutes not being there for
a lot of costly packages (llvm/mesa comes to mind) and not knowing in
advance what failures there are doesn't help.

> Since the bootstrapping seems to have stabilised, that would allow more
> people to work on packages closer to the leaves, since most of what
> currently builds would be available as substitutes from the build farm
> without everybody needing to go through a one-week compilation project.
>
> Here is my eclectic selection of packages I would add to the job:
> - guix (builds)
> - icecat (builds)
> - ungoogled-chromium (probably also builds)
> - openjdk (pulls in rust!, and builds)
> - unison (pulls in ocaml, and builds)
> - calibre (pulls in qt@5 and python; the former builds, the latter still
>   has some problems, among which the python bindings to qt, and packages
>   failing their tests even when updating to the latest release)
> - pandoc (pulls in ghc, which currently fails its tests @9.2.5)
> Please suggest more leaf packages that exercise your favourite missing
> language or application domain!

I would add gdm, xfce, gnome as those are part of most people's default
configuration.  sway is probably another good candidate.  I cannot wait
to delve into gnome-shell's gjs code again! (not)

Best,
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Josselin Poiret

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Re: State of core-updates

[Andreas Enge]

Am Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 07:55:00PM +0100 schrieb Josselin Poiret:
> I would add gdm, xfce, gnome as those are part of most people's default
> configuration.  sway is probably another good candidate.

Good points! I just tried "sway", and it compiles! (It depends on
relatively few packages compared to the others.)

> I cannot wait
> to delve into gnome-shell's gjs code again! (not)

Ah, there is a chance you will regret having made this offer :)
But who knows, maybe everything will work out of the box.

Cheers,

Andreas

Re: State of core-updates

[Simon Tournier]

Hi,

On ven., 10 mars 2023 at 15:58, Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr> wrote:

> let me start with a call for help! I realise that it takes me about one
> week and something close to 100GB on my poor 2-core laptop to rebuild
> the bulk of core-updates up to the packages in my profile, and that is not
> sustainable. It also forces me to do a "guix gc" between two runs, with
> the danger of either doing it too late and having to restart the builds
> (lived experience, one week lost), or losing and having to recompile
> store items that effectively have not changed.

I sympathize.  That’s one of the reason [1] why I have not checked out
core-updates yet. :-)

1: https://yhetil.org/guix/86v8k57vey.fsf@gmail.com

> So it would be nice if someone could set up a more complete job for
> core-updates on cuirass or QA, 

[...]

> Here is my eclectic selection of packages I would add to the job:

[...]

> Please suggest more leaf packages that exercise your favourite missing
> language or application domain!

I agree.  It could be helpful if Berlin or Bordeaux could build some
manifest for core-updates.  And then, once the manifest builds, we could
add some packages and repeat.

It would avoid that we all build the same things; worse, that each of us
burn many CPU just for knowing what fails.

Well, maybe it could be helpful if now Berlin or Bordeaux starts to
build etc/release-manifest.scm.  WDYT?

Cheers,
simon

Re: State of core-updates

[Andreas Enge]

Am Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 03:14:09PM +0100 schrieb Simon Tournier:
> Well, maybe it could be helpful if now Berlin or Bordeaux starts to
> build etc/release-manifest.scm.  WDYT?

That sounds like a great next step. Someone just has to do it™...

Andreas

Re: State of core-updates

[Simon Tournier]

Hi Andreas,

On mar., 14 mars 2023 at 21:43, Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr> wrote:

>> Well, maybe it could be helpful if now Berlin or Bordeaux starts to
>> build etc/release-manifest.scm.  WDYT?
>
> That sounds like a great next step. Someone just has to do it™...

The set of Someone is restricted since it requires special
privileges. :-)

Well, if the CI is not building a subset of packages, for instance the
etc/release-manifest.scm, then I am not convinced that rebuilding the
world again and again is worth the resources it requires, IMHO.

Anyway, I am just back from holidays and maybe core-updates had been
merged in the meantime… I have not read yet all the emails. ;-)

Cheers,
simon

Re: State of core-updates

[Roman Scherer]

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Hi Andreas,

could we please add the jemalloc package that supports transparent huge
page sizes on aarch64 (which is currently waiting in core-updates) to
this list? At the moment any substitute which involves jemalloc isn't
useable on Linux kernels with a page size > 4K and requires building the
whole rust chain to Icecat working.

Please let me know if I can help with this somehow?

Thanks, Roman.

Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr> writes:

>
> Here is my eclectic selection of packages I would add to the job:
> - guix (builds)
> - icecat (builds)
> - ungoogled-chromium (probably also builds)
> - openjdk (pulls in rust!, and builds)
> - unison (pulls in ocaml, and builds)
> - calibre (pulls in qt@5 and python; the former builds, the latter still
>   has some problems, among which the python bindings to qt, and packages
>   failing their tests even when updating to the latest release)
> - pandoc (pulls in ghc, which currently fails its tests @9.2.5)
> Please suggest more leaf packages that exercise your favourite missing
> language or application domain!
>
> Andreas

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Re: State of core-updates

[Josselin Poiret]

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Hi Andreas,

Roman Scherer <roman.scherer@burningswell.com> writes:

> Hi Andreas,
>
> could we please add the jemalloc package that supports transparent huge
> page sizes on aarch64 (which is currently waiting in core-updates) to
> this list? At the moment any substitute which involves jemalloc isn't
> useable on Linux kernels with a page size > 4K and requires building the
> whole rust chain to Icecat working.

Since jemalloc is indeed a dependency of icecat, it would also get built
by the CI job if the latter is added.

Best,
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Re: State of core-updates

[Roman Scherer]

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Ok, cool. Looking forward to it.

Josselin Poiret <dev@jpoiret.xyz> writes:

> [[PGP Signed Part:Undecided]]
> Hi Andreas,
>
> Roman Scherer <roman.scherer@burningswell.com> writes:
>
>> Hi Andreas,
>>
>> could we please add the jemalloc package that supports transparent huge
>> page sizes on aarch64 (which is currently waiting in core-updates) to
>> this list? At the moment any substitute which involves jemalloc isn't
>> useable on Linux kernels with a page size > 4K and requires building the
>> whole rust chain to Icecat working.
>
> Since jemalloc is indeed a dependency of icecat, it would also get built
> by the CI job if the latter is added.
>
> Best,

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Re: State of core-updates

[Maxim Cournoyer]

Hi Andreas,

Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr> writes:

> Hello all,
>
> let me start with a call for help! I realise that it takes me about one
> week and something close to 100GB on my poor 2-core laptop to rebuild
> the bulk of core-updates up to the packages in my profile, and that is not
> sustainable. It also forces me to do a "guix gc" between two runs, with
> the danger of either doing it too late and having to restart the builds
> (lived experience, one week lost), or losing and having to recompile
> store items that effectively have not changed.

Some things that may help that I use:

- Offloading
- Btrfs file system with zstd compression (to make that 100 GiB appear
  as 50 GiB or less on your drive)

[...]

> Since the bootstrapping seems to have stabilised, that would allow more
> people to work on packages closer to the leaves, since most of what
> currently builds would be available as substitutes from the build farm
> without everybody needing to go through a one-week compilation project.
>
> Here is my eclectic selection of packages I would add to the job:
> - guix (builds)
> - icecat (builds)
> - ungoogled-chromium (probably also builds)
> - openjdk (pulls in rust!, and builds)
> - unison (pulls in ocaml, and builds)
> - calibre (pulls in qt@5 and python; the former builds, the latter still
>   has some problems, among which the python bindings to qt, and packages
>   failing their tests even when updating to the latest release)
> - pandoc (pulls in ghc, which currently fails its tests @9.2.5)
> Please suggest more leaf packages that exercise your favourite missing
> language or application domain!

That looks promising.  Should we spun a differently named branch to
avoid people sending core-updates change?  This was discussed in the
past and agreed to (main branches do not *freeze* themselves), instead
we use git to branch to our will.

We could perhaps then add a 'core-updates-fixes-only' branch to the CI,
in which we'd try to restrict core changes as much as possible, keeping
the rebuild stress low for Berlin.

How does that sound?

-- 
Thanks,
Maxim

Re: State of core-updates

[Andreas Enge]

Hello Maxim,

Am Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 11:50:12AM -0400 schrieb Maxim Cournoyer:
> That looks promising.  Should we spun a differently named branch to
> avoid people sending core-updates change?  This was discussed in the
> past and agreed to (main branches do not *freeze* themselves), instead
> we use git to branch to our will.

well, I consider core-updates to be frozen, people should not send any
more patches there unless they repair things that are currently broken
(and, one may add, a regression to master). I do not expect this to
include any world rebuilding changes any more.

And then the goal will be to not have a core-updates branch in the future,
but separate feature branches as discussed at the Guix days. So the aim
is to merge core-updates to master, and then to delete this branch once
and for all. (Of course, there can then be a new feature branch "core-team"
or something like this, for changes concerning the core of the system.)

So I think there is no need to branch from the branch!
(And just as a reminder, let us not forget the staging branch that needs
a similar treatment.)

Andreas

Re: State of core-updates

[Maxim Cournoyer]

Hi Andreas,

Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr> writes:

> Hello Maxim,
>
> Am Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 11:50:12AM -0400 schrieb Maxim Cournoyer:
>> That looks promising.  Should we spun a differently named branch to
>> avoid people sending core-updates change?  This was discussed in the
>> past and agreed to (main branches do not *freeze* themselves), instead
>> we use git to branch to our will.
>
> well, I consider core-updates to be frozen, people should not send any
> more patches there unless they repair things that are currently broken
> (and, one may add, a regression to master). I do not expect this to
> include any world rebuilding changes any more.
>
> And then the goal will be to not have a core-updates branch in the future,
> but separate feature branches as discussed at the Guix days.
>
> So the aim is to merge core-updates to master, and then to delete this
> branch once and for all. (Of course, there can then be a new feature
> branch "core-team" or something like this, for changes concerning the
> core of the system.)

Thanks for the explanations.  I'm out of the loop, not having been able
to attend physically the last Guix Days event.  Was there a recap of the
discussions posted somewhere?  Was the freeze announce somewhere?  I
wholly missed that, and I try to pay attention.

> So I think there is no need to branch from the branch!
> (And just as a reminder, let us not forget the staging branch that needs
> a similar treatment.)

OK!  We could probably merge staging into master and be done already.

-- 
Thanks,
Maxim

Re: State of core-updates

[Andreas Enge]

Am Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 08:56:38PM -0400 schrieb Maxim Cournoyer:
> OK!  We could probably merge staging into master and be done already.

We should build it first. The last time I tried, there was a showstopper bug.

Here it is:
I tried to build staging for my profile on x86_64, but it failed with
a dependency of ffmpeg, rust-rav1e-0.5.1. There is a newer version 0.6.3,
but I did not simply update it, since the package looks particularly
complicated, containing a phase:
         (add-after 'configure 'force-rust-edition-2018
           (lambda* (#:key vendor-dir #:allow-other-keys)
             ;; Force all the dependencies to not be higher than edition 2018.
             (with-fluids ((%default-port-encoding #f))
               (substitute* (find-files vendor-dir "Cargo.toml")
                 (("edition = \\\"2021\\\"") "edition = \"2018\"")))))
and many other changes.

Leo suggested to remove the dependency as non-essential. On the other
hand, I think the problem does not occur in core-updates, so one should
have a look.

And there may be other problems, too.

And of course this implies merging the merged into master staging back to
core-updates, which may create problems we will have to deal with later.
But yes, I would be happy to merge staging first; this was my initial
suggestion, before we somehow collectively flocked to core-updates :)

Andreas

Re: State of core-updates

[Efraim Flashner]

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On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 08:54:55AM +0100, Andreas Enge wrote:
> Am Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 08:56:38PM -0400 schrieb Maxim Cournoyer:
> > OK!  We could probably merge staging into master and be done already.
> 
> We should build it first. The last time I tried, there was a showstopper bug.
> 
> Here it is:
> I tried to build staging for my profile on x86_64, but it failed with
> a dependency of ffmpeg, rust-rav1e-0.5.1. There is a newer version 0.6.3,
> but I did not simply update it, since the package looks particularly
> complicated, containing a phase:
>          (add-after 'configure 'force-rust-edition-2018
>            (lambda* (#:key vendor-dir #:allow-other-keys)
>              ;; Force all the dependencies to not be higher than edition 2018.
>              (with-fluids ((%default-port-encoding #f))
>                (substitute* (find-files vendor-dir "Cargo.toml")
>                  (("edition = \\\"2021\\\"") "edition = \"2018\"")))))
> and many other changes.
> 
> Leo suggested to remove the dependency as non-essential. On the other
> hand, I think the problem does not occur in core-updates, so one should
> have a look.
> 
> And there may be other problems, too.
> 
> And of course this implies merging the merged into master staging back to
> core-updates, which may create problems we will have to deal with later.
> But yes, I would be happy to merge staging first; this was my initial
> suggestion, before we somehow collectively flocked to core-updates :)
> 

This and other bugs are fixed on the rust-team branch. Once I figure out
how to compare it against master and force rust to build for aarch64
we'll be nearly there.

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Re: State of core-updates

[Andreas Enge]

Am Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 01:33:52PM +0200 schrieb Efraim Flashner:
> This and other bugs are fixed on the rust-team branch. Once I figure out
> how to compare it against master and force rust to build for aarch64
> we'll be nearly there.

That sounds great! Then the order of merging might end up
rust-team -> staging -> core-updates (which might mean rebuilding more or
less all of core-updates, rust is everywhere nowadays...).

Andreas

Re: State of core-updates

[Maxim Cournoyer]

Hi Efraim,

Efraim Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il> writes:

> On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 08:54:55AM +0100, Andreas Enge wrote:
>> Am Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 08:56:38PM -0400 schrieb Maxim Cournoyer:
>> > OK!  We could probably merge staging into master and be done already.
>> 
>> We should build it first. The last time I tried, there was a showstopper bug.
>> 
>> Here it is:
>> I tried to build staging for my profile on x86_64, but it failed with
>> a dependency of ffmpeg, rust-rav1e-0.5.1. There is a newer version 0.6.3,
>> but I did not simply update it, since the package looks particularly
>> complicated, containing a phase:
>>          (add-after 'configure 'force-rust-edition-2018
>>            (lambda* (#:key vendor-dir #:allow-other-keys)
>>              ;; Force all the dependencies to not be higher than edition 2018.
>>              (with-fluids ((%default-port-encoding #f))
>>                (substitute* (find-files vendor-dir "Cargo.toml")
>>                  (("edition = \\\"2021\\\"") "edition = \"2018\"")))))
>> and many other changes.
>> 
>> Leo suggested to remove the dependency as non-essential. On the other
>> hand, I think the problem does not occur in core-updates, so one should
>> have a look.
>> 
>> And there may be other problems, too.
>> 
>> And of course this implies merging the merged into master staging back to
>> core-updates, which may create problems we will have to deal with later.
>> But yes, I would be happy to merge staging first; this was my initial
>> suggestion, before we somehow collectively flocked to core-updates :)
>> 
>
> This and other bugs are fixed on the rust-team branch. Once I figure out
> how to compare it against master and force rust to build for aarch64
> we'll be nearly there.

OK, I'll keep my hands from trying to fix the above myself then, to avoid
duplicate work :-).

Thanks for the heads-up!

-- 
Thanks,
Maxim

Re: State of core-updates

[Maxim Cournoyer]

Hi Andreas,

Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr> writes:

> Am Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 08:56:38PM -0400 schrieb Maxim Cournoyer:
>> OK!  We could probably merge staging into master and be done already.
>
> We should build it first. The last time I tried, there was a showstopper bug.
>
> Here it is:
> I tried to build staging for my profile on x86_64, but it failed with
> a dependency of ffmpeg, rust-rav1e-0.5.1. There is a newer version 0.6.3,
> but I did not simply update it, since the package looks particularly
> complicated, containing a phase:
>          (add-after 'configure 'force-rust-edition-2018
>            (lambda* (#:key vendor-dir #:allow-other-keys)
>              ;; Force all the dependencies to not be higher than edition 2018.
>              (with-fluids ((%default-port-encoding #f))
>                (substitute* (find-files vendor-dir "Cargo.toml")
>                  (("edition = \\\"2021\\\"") "edition = \"2018\"")))))
> and many other changes.
>
> Leo suggested to remove the dependency as non-essential. On the other
> hand, I think the problem does not occur in core-updates, so one should
> have a look.

Fun, I think I may have a wip stashed entry trying to address that very
problem; last time I was stopped by libgit2 being too old but that was
updated since on master, IIRC.  I'll try taking a new look when I have
the chance.

-- 
Thanks,
Maxim

Notes from the Guix Days

[Ludovic Courtès]

Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com> skribis:

> Thanks for the explanations.  I'm out of the loop, not having been able
> to attend physically the last Guix Days event.  Was there a recap of the
> discussions posted somewhere?  Was the freeze announce somewhere?  I
> wholly missed that, and I try to pay attention.

Notes on the release and branching discussions are here:

  https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2023-02/msg00066.html

Pjotr stored additional notes here (thanks!):

  https://gitlab.com/pjotrp/guix-days-fosdem-2023/-/tree/main/

Pjotr, can you add Andreas’ notes linked above?  Does anyone else have
notes to share?

Ludo’.

Re: Notes from the Guix Days

[Pjotr Prins]

On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 05:34:24PM +0100, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> Pjotr, can you add Andreas’ notes linked above?  Does anyone else have
> notes to share?

Added.

https://gitlab.com/pjotrp/guix-days-fosdem-2023

Re: Notes from the Guix Days

[Maxim Cournoyer]

Hello!

Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:

> Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com> skribis:
>
>> Thanks for the explanations.  I'm out of the loop, not having been able
>> to attend physically the last Guix Days event.  Was there a recap of the
>> discussions posted somewhere?  Was the freeze announce somewhere?  I
>> wholly missed that, and I try to pay attention.
>
> Notes on the release and branching discussions are here:
>
>   https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2023-02/msg00066.html

All caught up now!

> Pjotr stored additional notes here (thanks!):
>
>   https://gitlab.com/pjotrp/guix-days-fosdem-2023/-/tree/main/

This is nice, I just peeked at "Debugging Guix beyond pk".  I'll
bookmark and read more of it, thank you!

-- 
Maxim

Debugging Guix beyond pk (was Re: Notes from the Guix Days)

[Simon Tournier]

Hi Maxim,

On ven., 17 mars 2023 at 11:07, Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com> wrote:

>>   https://gitlab.com/pjotrp/guix-days-fosdem-2023/-/tree/main/
>
> This is nice, I just peeked at "Debugging Guix beyond pk".  I'll
> bookmark and read more of it, thank you!

I was very interested by this session, especially after the recent
thread [1] about Guile debugger.  In that thread [1], Ludo wrote,
quoting:

        Also, I think I mentioned before that I almost never use breakpoints on
        Guile code—not because of some deficiency of the debugger, not (just)
        because I’m silly or inexperienced, but because it’s rarely the right
        tool for the job.

and that’s the conclusion I came back to home: the good ol’ ’pk’ is just
the right tool for the job – considering the current state of Guile
debugger as discussed in this thread [1].

That’s said, the notes do not mention ’guix-derivation-mode’ from the
package emacs-guix.  Well, last do not miss ’guix-scheme-mode’ which
eases the reading of Scheme “builder” code – it is not always
autoloaded.

1: https://yhetil.org/guix/87fse69czr.fsf@gnu.org


Cheers,
simon

Re: Debugging Guix beyond pk (was Re: Notes from the Guix Days)

[Maxim Cournoyer]

Hi Simon,

Simon Tournier <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com> writes:

> Hi Maxim,
>
> On ven., 17 mars 2023 at 11:07, Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>   https://gitlab.com/pjotrp/guix-days-fosdem-2023/-/tree/main/
>>
>> This is nice, I just peeked at "Debugging Guix beyond pk".  I'll
>> bookmark and read more of it, thank you!
>
> I was very interested by this session, especially after the recent
> thread [1] about Guile debugger.  In that thread [1], Ludo wrote,
> quoting:
>
>         Also, I think I mentioned before that I almost never use breakpoints on
>         Guile code—not because of some deficiency of the debugger, not (just)
>         because I’m silly or inexperienced, but because it’s rarely the right
>         tool for the job.
>
> and that’s the conclusion I came back to home: the good ol’ ’pk’ is just
> the right tool for the job – considering the current state of Guile
> debugger as discussed in this thread [1].

I agree it's the "right" as in "best" tool for the job given the current
situation that makes stepping Guile code difficult/impossible to follow
or stop where one wants.  I still think a more user-friendly/capable
debugger would be nice, but haven't had the opportunity to take actions
yet.  The obvious low hanging fruit would be to start with documenting
'pk' in the Guile user manual :-).

> That’s said, the notes do not mention ’guix-derivation-mode’ from the
> package emacs-guix.  Well, last do not miss ’guix-scheme-mode’ which
> eases the reading of Scheme “builder” code – it is not always
> autoloaded.
>
> 1: https://yhetil.org/guix/87fse69czr.fsf@gnu.org

I know these, they are very useful.  Not too discoverable too, I reckon!
Thanks for pointing them out.

-- 
Thanks,
Maxim

Re: State of core-updates

[Andreas Enge]

Am Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 11:50:12AM -0400 schrieb Maxim Cournoyer:
> Some things that may help that I use:
> - Offloading

I more or less tried this by building things on berlin; however, big
packages (?, precisely: openjdk checkout (not even building!), ghc@9.2.5
and llvm-for-mesa) failed complaining about a 3600s timeout because of
silence. All of them build locally; hopefully this problem will disappear
once we pass through cuirass.

Andreas

Re: State of core-updates

[Andreas Enge]

Am Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 02:33:36PM +0100 schrieb Andreas Enge:
> I more or less tried this by building things on berlin; however, big
> packages (?, precisely: openjdk checkout (not even building!), ghc@9.2.5
> and llvm-for-mesa) failed complaining about a 3600s timeout because of
> silence. All of them build locally; hopefully this problem will disappear
> once we pass through cuirass.

Actually it also helped to build a few packages one by one from the command
line, instead of many of them at once. So now there should be mesa on berlin.

ghc however still fails with a message like this:
building /gnu/store/i7b6ffy3jp8adanvkj7zbv3mb5cdsxnq-ghc-9.2.5.drv...
guix offload: sending 66 store items (1,884 MiB) to '141.80.167.166'...
exporting path `/gnu/store/8smlivxisga3y7fz3q5qkvrnpsbvr6c4-ghc-8.10.7-testsuite.tar.xz-builder'
...
exporting path `/gnu/store/fgr6i273g6wa88w6h95sgpb5c1yr751c-ghc-8.10.7'
exporting path `/gnu/store/grd39lms6g8pg3r1zlvz7a5qwlymybhy-ghc-9.2.5-src.tar.xz'

building of `/gnu/store/i7b6ffy3jp8adanvkj7zbv3mb5cdsxnq-ghc-9.2.5.drv' timed out after 3600 seconds of silence
build of /gnu/store/i7b6ffy3jp8adanvkj7zbv3mb5cdsxnq-ghc-9.2.5.drv failed
View build log at '/var/log/guix/drvs/i7/b6ffy3jp8adanvkj7zbv3mb5cdsxnq-ghc-9.2.5.drv.gz'.
guix build: error: build of `/gnu/store/i7b6ffy3jp8adanvkj7zbv3mb5cdsxnq-ghc-9.2.5.drv' failed

Somehow the sending of store items when offloading poses problems; I do not
understand where the problem lies. But the Guix Build Coordinator approach
of letting the compiling machine fetch the inputs from a substitute server
seems to be more robust. No idea what to do here!

Andreas

Re: State of core-updates

[Kaelyn]

Hi,

On the topic of the state of core-updates, I wanted to mention two things affecting i686-linux builds (and by extension some x86_64 packages like wine64):

1) glib-networking has a 32-bit-only patch left over from the upgrade from 2.70.0 to 2.72.2, which does not apply against the newer version, and which seems unneeded. I just sent in https://issues.guix.gnu.org/62209 to fix the package.

2) libaio 0.3.113 does not build on core-updates, though the previous version 0.3.112 does. I'm not sure how to handle this one, as the failure is a compile error from one of the test cases:

gcc -Wall -Werror -I../src -g -O2 -DTEST_NAME=\"cases/23.t\" -o cases/23.p main.c ../src/libaio.a -lpthread
mkdir testdir
rm -f testdir/rofile
echo "test" >testdir/rofile
chmod 400 testdir/rofile
rm -f testdir/rwfile
rm -f testdir/wofile
echo "test" >testdir/rwfile
echo "test" >testdir/wofile
chmod 600 testdir/rwfile
chmod 200 testdir/wofile
In file included from main.c:24:
cases/23.t: In function ‘thrproc2’:
cases/23.t:82:35: error: passing argument 2 of ‘splice’ from incompatible pointer type [-Werror=incompatible-pointer-types]
   82 |                 if (splice(tmpfd, &offset, pipefds[1], NULL, 1, 0) != 1)
      |                                   ^~~~~~~
      |                                   |
      |                                   off_t * {aka long int *}
In file included from /gnu/store/0hr9jpczkcgpgqkhf4q4868xd57h5a62-glibc-2.35/include/bits/fcntl.h:61,
                 from /gnu/store/0hr9jpczkcgpgqkhf4q4868xd57h5a62-glibc-2.35/include/fcntl.h:35,
                 from main.c:9:
/gnu/store/0hr9jpczkcgpgqkhf4q4868xd57h5a62-glibc-2.35/include/bits/fcntl-linux.h:398:49: note: expected ‘__off64_t *’ {aka ‘long long int *’} but argument is of type ‘off_t *’ {aka ‘long int *’}
  398 | extern __ssize_t splice (int __fdin, __off64_t *__offin, int __fdout,
      |                                      ~~~~~~~~~~~^~~~~~~
In file included from main.c:24:
cases/23.t: In function ‘thrproc3’:
cases/23.t:106:35: error: passing argument 2 of ‘splice’ from incompatible pointer type [-Werror=incompatible-pointer-types]
  106 |                 if (splice(tmpfd, &offset, pipefds[1], NULL, 1, 0) != 1)
      |                                   ^~~~~~~
      |                                   |
      |                                   off_t * {aka long int *}
In file included from /gnu/store/0hr9jpczkcgpgqkhf4q4868xd57h5a62-glibc-2.35/include/bits/fcntl.h:61,
                 from /gnu/store/0hr9jpczkcgpgqkhf4q4868xd57h5a62-glibc-2.35/include/fcntl.h:35,
                 from main.c:9:
/gnu/store/0hr9jpczkcgpgqkhf4q4868xd57h5a62-glibc-2.35/include/bits/fcntl-linux.h:398:49: note: expected ‘__off64_t *’ {aka ‘long long int *’} but argument is of type ‘off_t *’ {aka ‘long int *’}
  398 | extern __ssize_t splice (int __fdin, __off64_t *__offin, int __fdout,
      |                                      ~~~~~~~~~~~^~~~~~~
cc1: all warnings being treated as errors
make[1]: *** [Makefile:24: cases/23.p] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory '/tmp/guix-build-libaio-0.3.113.drv-0/libaio-0.3.113/harness'
make: *** [Makefile:23: partcheck] Error 2

Test suite failed, dumping logs.
error: in phase 'check': uncaught exception:
%exception #<&invoke-error program: "make" arguments: ("partcheck" "-j" "12" "prefix=/gnu/store/xr6s773c3d62g9aynydp1h6231p42ixn-libaio-0.3.113" "CC=gcc") exit-status: 2 term-signal: #f stop-signal: #f> 
phase `check' failed after 0.3 seconds


Cheers,
Kaelyn

P.S. For context, I hit the libaio error trying to build icecat (x86_64) on core-updates the other day; I hit the glib-networking error this morning trying to build wine, and then hit the libaio error again when retrying the wine (i686) build with my glib-networking change applied. The same build error affects both x86_64 and i686 builds of libaio.

Re: State of core-updates

[Andreas Enge]

Am Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 05:59:12PM +0000 schrieb Kaelyn:
> 1) glib-networking has a 32-bit-only patch left over from the upgrade from 2.70.0 to 2.72.2, which does not apply against the newer version, and which seems unneeded. I just sent in https://issues.guix.gnu.org/62209 to fix the package.

Splendid, thanks a lot! I did not manage to extract a git commit that I
could apply with "git am" out of your message, so I ended up pushing it
under my name while adding yours as a comment in the git log.

The package builds under x86_64 and i686, I did not test the arm
architectures. We will see what happens.

Thanks a lot!

Andreas

Re: State of core-updates

[Kaelyn]

------- Original Message -------
On Friday, March 17th, 2023 at 8:01 PM, Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr> wrote:
 
> 
> Am Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 05:59:12PM +0000 schrieb Kaelyn:
> 
> > 1) glib-networking has a 32-bit-only patch left over from the upgrade from 2.70.0 to 2.72.2, which does not apply against the newer version, and which seems unneeded. I just sent in https://issues.guix.gnu.org/62209 to fix the package.
> 
> 
> Splendid, thanks a lot! I did not manage to extract a git commit that I
> could apply with "git am" out of your message, so I ended up pushing it
> under my name while adding yours as a comment in the git log.
> 
> The package builds under x86_64 and i686, I did not test the arm
> architectures. We will see what happens.
> 
> Thanks a lot!

You're welcome! I'm happy to help. :) And sorry about "git am" not working, though I'm not sure why. I sent the email with "git send-email --to=guix-patches@gnu.org --subject-prefix="PATCH core-updates" HEAD^" as I've done with other patches (I also have format.useAutoBase set to whenAble in my .gitconfig).

Cheers,
Kaelyn

> 
> Andreas

Re: State of core-updates

[Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.]

Hi Andreas and Kaelyn,

On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 1:18 PM Kaelyn <kaelyn.alexi@protonmail.com> wrote:
>
> sorry about "git am" not working

I hesitate to get in the middle, but it may be appropriate for
attribution reasons to revert commit cc56be2f and then re-commit with
the '--author' option, unless rebasing and breaking history is
acceptable. [1]

Kind regards
Felix

[1] https://stackoverflow.com/a/28845565

Re: State of core-updates

[Kaelyn]

Hi Felix and Andreas,

------- Original Message -------
On Friday, March 17th, 2023 at 8:27 PM, Felix Lechner <felix.lechner@lease-up.com> wrote:


> 
> 
> Hi Andreas and Kaelyn,
> 
> On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 1:18 PM Kaelyn kaelyn.alexi@protonmail.com wrote:
> 
> > sorry about "git am" not working
> 
> 
> I hesitate to get in the middle, but it may be appropriate for
> attribution reasons to revert commit cc56be2f and then re-commit with
> the '--author' option, unless rebasing and breaking history is
> acceptable. [1]

I'm at least a little in favor of that, as the commit message for cc56be2f3858487cf1d8acfb345942f0784221ee is mis-formatted (it doesn't have the first 'gnu: ' prefixed summary line, and so git log --oneline doesn't format it right). I just quickly formatted and sent a v2 patch using "git format-patch --attach" and "git send-email" to try to get something at https://issues.guix.gnu.org/62209 that will work properly with "git am". (I'm still puzzled at what happened with the first one, as downloading the whole message and applying it with "git am" also fails for me.)

Cheers,
Kaelyn

> 
> Kind regards
> Felix
> 
> [1] https://stackoverflow.com/a/28845565

Re: State of core-updates

[Andreas Enge]

Hello,

Am Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 08:43:13PM +0000 schrieb Kaelyn:
> I'm at least a little in favor of that, as the commit message for cc56be2f3858487cf1d8acfb345942f0784221ee is mis-formatted (it doesn't have the first 'gnu: ' prefixed summary line, and so git log --oneline doesn't format it right).

sorry for that, I did go over the commit message, but overlooked this part.

> I just quickly formatted and sent a v2 patch using "git format-patch --attach" and "git send-email" to try to get something at https://issues.guix.gnu.org/62209 that will work properly with "git am". (I'm still puzzled at what happened with the first one, as downloading the whole message and applying it with "git am" also fails for me.)

It still does not - there is no first line for the commit message
(the "gnu: ...").

When I try to "git am the-message-in-mbox-format", I get:
fatal: Dirty index: cannot apply patches (dirty: gnu/local.mk gnu/packages/gnome.scm gnu/packages/patches/glib-networking-32-bit-time.patch)

When I just try to apply "git am v2-0001-gnu-glib-networking-Fix-32-bit-builds.patch":
Patch format detection failed.
(which is normal, it does not have the commit message, but starts with
"diff").

I may have made an error, but it is suspicious that QA apparently also did
not manage to extract a git commit (there is no corresponding branch in
guix-patches).

Concerning "git send-email", I recently tried it and followed the advice at
   https://guix.gnu.org/en/manual/devel/en/guix.html#Sending-a-Patch-Series
It does not involve a "git format-patch" step.

Andreas

Re: State of core-updates

[Kaelyn]

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------- Original Message -------
On Saturday, March 18th, 2023 at 8:56 AM, Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr> wrote:


> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Am Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 08:43:13PM +0000 schrieb Kaelyn:
> 
> > I'm at least a little in favor of that, as the commit message for cc56be2f3858487cf1d8acfb345942f0784221ee is mis-formatted (it doesn't have the first 'gnu: ' prefixed summary line, and so git log --oneline doesn't format it right).
> 
> 
> sorry for that, I did go over the commit message, but overlooked this part.
> 
> > I just quickly formatted and sent a v2 patch using "git format-patch --attach" and "git send-email" to try to get something at https://issues.guix.gnu.org/62209 that will work properly with "git am". (I'm still puzzled at what happened with the first one, as downloading the whole message and applying it with "git am" also fails for me.)
> 
> 
> It still does not - there is no first line for the commit message
> (the "gnu: ...").
> 
> When I try to "git am the-message-in-mbox-format", I get:
> fatal: Dirty index: cannot apply patches (dirty: gnu/local.mk gnu/packages/gnome.scm gnu/packages/patches/glib-networking-32-bit-time.patch)
> 
> When I just try to apply "git am v2-0001-gnu-glib-networking-Fix-32-bit-builds.patch":
> Patch format detection failed.
> (which is normal, it does not have the commit message, but starts with
> "diff").
> 
> I may have made an error, but it is suspicious that QA apparently also did
> not manage to extract a git commit (there is no corresponding branch in
> guix-patches).
> 
> Concerning "git send-email", I recently tried it and followed the advice at
> https://guix.gnu.org/en/manual/devel/en/guix.html#Sending-a-Patch-Series
> It does not involve a "git format-patch" step.

I'm at a complete loss as to why the patch won't apply properly. I originally sent it using "git send-email" (following the manual instructions, which I also recently double-checked trying to figure out the problem) as I have done with almost all of the other patches I've submitted. The v2 patch was made with the addition of "--attachment" to see if the different format transferred better, but no luck there. https://issues.guix.gnu.org/62137 is another patch I sent a couple days prior to https://issues.guix.gnu.org/62209; I can download 62137 through the web interface and apply it with git "am", but for either in 62209 I encounter the same errors as you.

The original commit message as shown by "git log" is:

commit 1ad88ac769189d36139fbfd3ceb562fbe3a1fed5 (core-updates)
Author: Kaelyn Takata <kaelyn.alexi@protonmail.com>
Date:   Wed Mar 15 10:22:25 2023 -0700

    gnu: glib-networking: Fix 32-bit builds.
    
    * gnu/packages/gnome.scm (glib-networking): Remove obsolete patch.
    * gnu/packages/patches/glib-networking-32-bit-time.patch: Remove patch.
    * gnu/local: Remove it.


I've attached the original patch as generated by "git format-patch --to=62209@debbugs.gnu.org core-updates^..core-updates" since the mumi version doesn't want to cooperate. I also locally tested that the attached patch worked with "git am" locally.

Cheers,
Kaelyn

> 
> Andreas

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From 1ad88ac769189d36139fbfd3ceb562fbe3a1fed5 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
Message-Id: <1ad88ac769189d36139fbfd3ceb562fbe3a1fed5.1679157139.git.kaelyn.alexi@protonmail.com>
From: Kaelyn Takata <kaelyn.alexi@protonmail.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2023 10:22:25 -0700
Subject: [PATCH] gnu: glib-networking: Fix 32-bit builds.
To: 62209@debbugs.gnu.org

* gnu/packages/gnome.scm (glib-networking): Remove obsolete patch.
* gnu/packages/patches/glib-networking-32-bit-time.patch: Remove patch.
* gnu/local: Remove it.
---
 gnu/local.mk                                  |  1 -
 gnu/packages/gnome.scm                        | 11 ----
 .../patches/glib-networking-32-bit-time.patch | 61 -------------------
 3 files changed, 73 deletions(-)
 delete mode 100644 gnu/packages/patches/glib-networking-32-bit-time.patch

diff --git a/gnu/local.mk b/gnu/local.mk
index 73617d3af7..ff35978f07 100644
--- a/gnu/local.mk
+++ b/gnu/local.mk
@@ -1204,7 +1204,6 @@ dist_patch_DATA =						\
   %D%/packages/patches/ghostscript-no-header-creationdate.patch \
   %D%/packages/patches/glib-appinfo-watch.patch			\
   %D%/packages/patches/glib-networking-gnutls-binding.patch	\
-  %D%/packages/patches/glib-networking-32-bit-time.patch	\
   %D%/packages/patches/glib-skip-failing-test.patch		\
   %D%/packages/patches/glibc-CVE-2019-7309.patch		\
   %D%/packages/patches/glibc-CVE-2019-9169.patch		\
diff --git a/gnu/packages/gnome.scm b/gnu/packages/gnome.scm
index 62b3ae72c7..ce7f3b6cec 100644
--- a/gnu/packages/gnome.scm
+++ b/gnu/packages/gnome.scm
@@ -4911,17 +4911,6 @@ (define-public glib-networking
               (patches
                (search-patches "glib-networking-gnutls-binding.patch"))))
     (build-system meson-build-system)
-    (arguments
-     (if (target-64bit?)
-         '()
-         (list #:phases
-               #~(modify-phases %standard-phases
-                   (add-after 'unpack 'work-around-32-bit-time-t
-                     (lambda _
-                       (invoke "patch" "--force" "-p1" "-i"
-                               #$(local-file
-                                  (search-patch
-                                   "glib-networking-32-bit-time.patch")))))))))
     (native-inputs
      (list pkg-config gettext-minimal))
     (inputs
diff --git a/gnu/packages/patches/glib-networking-32-bit-time.patch b/gnu/packages/patches/glib-networking-32-bit-time.patch
deleted file mode 100644
index a437310270..0000000000
--- a/gnu/packages/patches/glib-networking-32-bit-time.patch
+++ /dev/null
@@ -1,61 +0,0 @@
-Work around a year-2038 issue when building with a 32-bit 'time_t'
-on 32-bit platforms:
-
-  https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/glib-networking/-/issues/172
-
-From 4f8ca86a0e460794188c3355f0c7cc11fdbe4229 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
-From: Simon McVittie <simon.mcvittie@collabora.co.uk>
-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2021 17:07:44 +0000
-Subject: [PATCH] tests: Accept GNUTLS' workaround for limited size of time_t
-
----
- tls/tests/certificate.c | 15 +++++++++++++++
- tls/tests/meson.build   |  1 +
- 2 files changed, 16 insertions(+)
-
-diff --git a/tls/tests/certificate.c b/tls/tests/certificate.c
-index c0100d30..d216c710 100644
---- a/tls/tests/certificate.c
-+++ b/tls/tests/certificate.c
-@@ -672,6 +672,12 @@ test_certificate_not_valid_before (void)
-   g_object_unref (cert);
- }
- 
-+/* On 32-bit, GNUTLS caps expiry times at 2037-12-31 23:23:23 to avoid
-+ * overflowing time_t. Hopefully by 2037, either 32-bit will finally have
-+ * died out, or GNUTLS will rethink its approach to
-+ * https://gitlab.com/gnutls/gnutls/-/issues/370 */
-+#define GNUTLS_32_BIT_NOT_VALID_AFTER_MAX 2145914603
-+
- static void
- test_certificate_not_valid_after (void)
- {
-@@ -686,7 +692,16 @@ test_certificate_not_valid_after (void)
-   actual = g_tls_certificate_get_not_valid_after (cert);
-   g_assert_nonnull (actual);
-   actual_str = g_date_time_format_iso8601 (actual);
-+
-+#if SIZEOF_TIME_T <= 4
-+  if (g_date_time_to_unix (actual) == GNUTLS_32_BIT_NOT_VALID_AFTER_MAX)
-+    g_test_incomplete ("not-valid-after date not representable on 32-bit");
-+  else
-+    g_assert_cmpstr (actual_str, ==, EXPECTED_NOT_VALID_AFTER);
-+#else
-   g_assert_cmpstr (actual_str, ==, EXPECTED_NOT_VALID_AFTER);
-+#endif
-+
-   g_free (actual_str);
-   g_date_time_unref (actual);
-   g_object_unref (cert);
-diff --git a/tls/tests/meson.build b/tls/tests/meson.build
-index e9c7d8c6..7415f913 100644
---- a/tls/tests/meson.build
-+++ b/tls/tests/meson.build
-@@ -69,6 +69,7 @@ foreach backend: backends
-     test_cflags = cflags + [
-       '-DBACKEND="@0@"'.format(backend),
-       '-DBACKEND_IS_' + backend.to_upper(),
-+      '-DSIZEOF_TIME_T=@0@'.format(cc.sizeof('time_t', prefix: '#include <time.h>')),
-     ]
- 
-     if backend == 'openssl'

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2.39.1

Re: State of core-updates

[Andreas Enge]

Am Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 04:36:26PM +0000 schrieb Kaelyn:
> I'm at a complete loss as to why the patch won't apply properly.

Ah, the joys of email formatting maybe.

> I've attached the original patch as generated by "git format-patch

Thanks, I applied and pushed it and am closing the bug.

Andreas

Re: State of core-updates

[Andreas Enge]

Hello,

Am Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 05:59:12PM +0000 schrieb Kaelyn:
> 2) libaio 0.3.113 does not build on core-updates, though the previous version 0.3.112 does. I'm not sure how to handle this one, as the failure is a compile error from one of the test cases:

it compiles for me on x86_64, but indeed not on i686.
I added a patch; unfortunately this means recompiling 2000 packages.

Thanks for the report!

Andreas

Re: State of core-updates

[Felix Lechner]

Hi Andreas,

On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 7:57 AM Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr> wrote:
>
> Somehow the sending of store items when offloading poses problems

Somehow I think I see a similar problem with 'guix deploy,' which I
have to restart manually several times in order to complete the store
transfer. In my case, the error presents as an SSH error ("parent
process is not connected" I think) though, instead of a Cuirass
timeout.

Kind regards
Felix

Re: State of core-updates

[Maxim Cournoyer]

Hi Felix,

Felix Lechner <felix.lechner@gmail.com> writes:

> Hi Andreas,
>
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 7:57 AM Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr> wrote:
>>
>> Somehow the sending of store items when offloading poses problems
>
> Somehow I think I see a similar problem with 'guix deploy,' which I
> have to restart manually several times in order to complete the store
> transfer. In my case, the error presents as an SSH error ("parent
> process is not connected" I think) though, instead of a Cuirass
> timeout.

I can't be sure, but they don't seem related here: I can offload fine to
a distant machine, but using 'guix deploy' on the other hands often
caused GSSH errors, as I reported in #62213.

-- 
Thanks,
Maxim

Offloading problems on berlin

[Ludovic Courtès]

Hi,

Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr> skribis:

> exporting path `/gnu/store/grd39lms6g8pg3r1zlvz7a5qwlymybhy-ghc-9.2.5-src.tar.xz'
>
> building of `/gnu/store/i7b6ffy3jp8adanvkj7zbv3mb5cdsxnq-ghc-9.2.5.drv' timed out after 3600 seconds of silence

There’s a problem with offloading on berlin:

  https://issues.guix.gnu.org/61839

I occasionally offload from my laptop to machines at work but didn’t hit
this bug, so we’ll have to see if it’s specific to berlin or not.

Ludo’.

Re: Offloading problems on berlin

[Andreas Enge]

Am Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 02:50:53PM +0100 schrieb Ludovic Courtès:
> There’s a problem with offloading on berlin:
>   https://issues.guix.gnu.org/61839
> I occasionally offload from my laptop to machines at work but didn’t hit
> this bug, so we’ll have to see if it’s specific to berlin or not.

Thanks for pointing out that it is a known issue!
Is there a commandline program that can be used like gkrellm to check
whether data is flowing out of berlin to the build node?

Andreas

Re: Offloading problems on berlin

[Andreas Enge]

Am Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 09:40:37PM +0100 schrieb Andreas Enge:
> Thanks for pointing out that it is a known issue!

And it happens quite systematically with large packages sent as inputs.
When trying to build openjdk, I get without pause output like this:
   building /gnu/store/gqdzxi9idv4rby2g4j9s6h1m3qfbmjph-openjdk-15.0.9.drv...
   guix offload: sending 2 store items (960 MiB) to '141.80.167.158'...
   exporting path `/gnu/store/lil0s7gijwglfbvx4ailf9fqjmrw5jw9-openjdk-15.0.9-checkout'
   exporting path `/gnu/store/ri7i5r91p8zj4jnznsjxnh35n99fb8k6-openjdk-14.0.2-jdk'
and then it stops.

After maybe 40 times or so it goes through. I do not know whether this is
because the transfer finally succeeds (probably so), or maybe because the
build ends up on the machine that also built the input and still has it
in its store...

Andreas

Re: Offloading problems on berlin

[Ludovic Courtès]

Hi,

Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr> skribis:

> And it happens quite systematically with large packages sent as inputs.
> When trying to build openjdk, I get without pause output like this:
>    building /gnu/store/gqdzxi9idv4rby2g4j9s6h1m3qfbmjph-openjdk-15.0.9.drv...
>    guix offload: sending 2 store items (960 MiB) to '141.80.167.158'...
>    exporting path `/gnu/store/lil0s7gijwglfbvx4ailf9fqjmrw5jw9-openjdk-15.0.9-checkout'
>    exporting path `/gnu/store/ri7i5r91p8zj4jnznsjxnh35n99fb8k6-openjdk-14.0.2-jdk'
> and then it stops.
>
> After maybe 40 times or so it goes through.

If it’s this easy to reproduce, I hope we can gather more data
server-side and client-side.  (I tried and failed to reproduce it a few
days ago, maybe because I wasn’t transferring as much?)

Thanks,
Ludo’.

Re: Offloading problems on berlin

[Kaelyn]

------- Original Message -------
On Thursday, March 16th, 2023 at 8:40 PM, Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr> wrote:


> 
> 
> Am Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 02:50:53PM +0100 schrieb Ludovic Courtès:
> 
> > There’s a problem with offloading on berlin:
> > https://issues.guix.gnu.org/61839
> > I occasionally offload from my laptop to machines at work but didn’t hit
> > this bug, so we’ll have to see if it’s specific to berlin or not.
> 
> 
> Thanks for pointing out that it is a known issue!
> Is there a commandline program that can be used like gkrellm to check
> whether data is flowing out of berlin to the build node?

You may be able to use jnettop to see the network streams (it does need superuser privileges to run). Not sure how readable/useful it might be if berlin has a lot of active connections, though.

HTH,
Kaelyn

> 
> Andreas

Re: Offloading problems on berlin

[Andreas Enge]

Hello Kaelyn,

Am Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 09:25:27PM +0000 schrieb Kaelyn:
> You may be able to use jnettop to see the network streams (it does need superuser privileges to run). Not sure how readable/useful it might be if berlin has a lot of active connections, though.

This is a huge help, thanks a lot!

It helps in particular in this situation:
guix offload: sending 17 store items (6,607 MiB) to '141.80.167.169'...
...
exporting path `/gnu/store/y4ipvkapf1gninaabwdl6pcz46c1frak-texlive-texmf-20210325'
where the difference is between a few 100kB/s before and 60 to 80 MB/s
while it is sending the data, and a few 100kB/s again when it fails...

Andreas

Re: Offloading problems on berlin

[Maxim Cournoyer]

Hi Andreas,

Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr> writes:

> Am Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 02:50:53PM +0100 schrieb Ludovic Courtès:
>> There’s a problem with offloading on berlin:
>>   https://issues.guix.gnu.org/61839
>> I occasionally offload from my laptop to machines at work but didn’t hit
>> this bug, so we’ll have to see if it’s specific to berlin or not.
>
> Thanks for pointing out that it is a known issue!
> Is there a commandline program that can be used like gkrellm to check
> whether data is flowing out of berlin to the build node?

Just clarifying, it is *not* currently known issue outside of Berlin.

-- 
Thanks,
Maxim

bug#61839: Offloading problems on berlin

[Andreas Enge]

Am Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 02:50:53PM +0100 schrieb Ludovic Courtès:
> I occasionally offload from my laptop to machines at work but didn’t hit
> this bug, so we’ll have to see if it’s specific to berlin or not.

My impression is that in my case, the problem is not with ssh, but somehow
with the guix daemon. I tend to observe this:

guix offload: sending 1 store item (6,490 MiB) to '141.80.167.169'...
exporting path `/gnu/store/y4ipvkapf1gninaabwdl6pcz46c1frak-texlive-texmf-20210325'

Then jnettop shows data transfer of about 100 to 120MB/s during a bit over
a minute, which makes me think that the actual data transfer succeeds, but
that somehow the data is not registered in the store.
Then nothing tangible happens and offloading times out. Since I am
apparently not able to connect to the machines via ssh, I cannot have a
closer look at the receiving end.

Andreas

Re: State of core-updates

[Björn Höfling]

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On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 14:33:36 +0100
Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr> wrote:

> I more or less tried this by building things on berlin; however, big
> packages (?, precisely: openjdk checkout (not even building!)

OpenJDK@9 and @10 builds are fixed now on master.

Björn



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Re: State of core-updates

[Andreas Enge]

Am Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 10:33:08AM +0100 schrieb Björn Höfling:
> Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr> wrote:
> > I more or less tried this by building things on berlin; however, big
> > packages (?, precisely: openjdk checkout (not even building!)
> OpenJDK@9 and @10 builds are fixed now on master.

Thanks! Actually they did build on my laptop, the problem was only with
offloading. Apparently a new problem appeared later, thanks for the fix!

Am Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 12:20:28PM -0700 schrieb Felix Lechner:
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 7:57 AM Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr> wrote:
> > Somehow the sending of store items when offloading poses problems
> Somehow I think I see a similar problem with 'guix deploy,' which I
> have to restart manually several times in order to complete the store
> transfer. In my case, the error presents as an SSH error ("parent
> process is not connected" I think) though, instead of a Cuirass
> timeout.

It may be the same root cause. I did not suspect anything when big packages
needed to be transferred, but then it keeps happening with small packages
such as bash or imagemagick. And it becomes very annoying with packages
that have many inputs. As soon as I see no new line "exporting path..."
after a few seconds, it is almost certain that something broke and we will
end up with a timeout one hour later. I am trying with dblatex for about
a dozen times now. At some point in time, all machines of the build farm
will end up having (almost) all the inputs :-|

Yes, then building the package took no time at all! :-)

Andreas

Building more of ‘core-updates’ on ci.guix

[Ludovic Courtès]

Hello!

Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr> skribis:

> So it would be nice if someone could set up a more complete job for
> core-updates on cuirass or QA, and maybe write up a how-to to see which
> packages work and which ones need more love, preferably by architecture.

I’ve just changed it the ‘core-updates’ job to build
‘etc/release-manifests.scm’ (you can check what’s in there).  So
everything goes well (a big “if” :-)), we’ll soon have substitutes for
Emacs, GTK, and whatnot.

For the record, anyone with (1) SSH access to berlin, or (2) a “TLS user
certificate” for use by Cuirass¹ can do it.  For method #1, set up a
tunnel to the Cuirass web server, like so:

  ssh -L 8081:localhost:8081 berlin.guix.gnu.org

Then visit <http://localhost:8081>, click on “Edit” in the vegan-burger
menu on the ‘core-updates’ line, adjust accordingly, and save.  (You can
see that form at
<https://ci.guix.gnu.org/specification/edit/core-updates>, you can can’t
submit changes.)

HTH!

Ludo’.

¹ https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix/maintenance.git/tree/doc/release.org#n205

Re: Building more of ‘core-updates’ on ci.guix

[Andreas Enge]

Hello!

Am Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 05:47:08PM +0100 schrieb Ludovic Courtès:
> I’ve just changed it the ‘core-updates’ job to build
> ‘etc/release-manifests.scm’ (you can check what’s in there).  So
> everything goes well (a big “if” :-)), we’ll soon have substitutes for
> Emacs, GTK, and whatnot.

thanks a lot, also for the explanation on what to do over ssh.

Would it be okay to add the following packages to etc/release-manifests.scm:
openjdk
unison (exercises ocaml)
ghc-pandoc (exercises ghc)
calibre (exercises Qt5 and python-pyqt)

icecat is supposed to be added as soon as rust is available on i686,
but I suppose we could add it conditionally only on x86_64, no?
Actually there is already a filter step in %system-manifest.
The same holds for ungoogled-chromium. It should be enough to just
add them.

Andreas

Re: Building more of ‘core-updates’ on ci.guix

[Ludovic Courtès]

Hi,

Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr> skribis:

> Would it be okay to add the following packages to etc/release-manifests.scm:
> openjdk
> unison (exercises ocaml)
> ghc-pandoc (exercises ghc)
> calibre (exercises Qt5 and python-pyqt)

I would maybe not add them to ‘etc/release-manifest.scm’ because that
goes beyond the original goal of that manifest, which is to ensure that
essential substitutes are available (see “make
assert-binaries-available”).

Now, maybe we’ve reached the point where we can get ci.guix to build all
of ‘core-updates’?

> icecat is supposed to be added as soon as rust is available on i686,
> but I suppose we could add it conditionally only on x86_64, no?
>
> Actually there is already a filter step in %system-manifest.
> The same holds for ungoogled-chromium. It should be enough to just
> add them.

Yes, it looks like we can safely uncomment icecat in ‘%system-packages’.

Thanks,
Ludo’.

Re: Building more of ‘core-updates’ on ci.guix

[Andreas Enge]

Am Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 03:32:07PM +0100 schrieb Ludovic Courtès:
> Yes, it looks like we can safely uncomment icecat in ‘%system-packages’.

Done!

> Now, maybe we’ve reached the point where we can get ci.guix to build all
> of ‘core-updates’?

With staging built and the build farm being quite idle, I have come to the
same conclusion, so I have modified the specification to build everything,
and (hopefully) restarted the evaluation.

Andreas

Re: Building more of ‘core-updates’ on ci.guix

[Andreas Enge]

Am Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 11:20:14AM +0200 schrieb Andreas Enge:
> With staging built and the build farm being quite idle, I have come to the
> same conclusion, so I have modified the specification to build everything,
> and (hopefully) restarted the evaluation.

Well, it does not seem to work.
   https://ci.guix.gnu.org/
shows "all" under build, but
   https://ci.guix.gnu.org/jobset/core-updates
has a few evaluations made after the change that do not take it into
account. For instance, 341091 on commit 35b208c shows no new builds.

Help welcome, I have no idea what is happening!

Andreas

Re: Building more of ‘core-updates’ on ci.guix

[Andreas Enge]

Am Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 01:21:22PM +0200 schrieb Andreas Enge:
> Well, it does not seem to work.
>    https://ci.guix.gnu.org/
> shows "all" under build, but
>    https://ci.guix.gnu.org/jobset/core-updates
> has a few evaluations made after the change that do not take it into
> account. For instance, 341091 on commit 35b208c shows no new builds.
> Help welcome, I have no idea what is happening!

Ping! Without substitutes now further down the build graph, it becomes
difficult to work on missing pieces (if there are any left).

It looks like since my change to "all" of core-updates, the dashboard
has also disappeared; for instance I see no dots in
   https://ci.guix.gnu.org/eval/341091/dashboard

Andreas

Re: Building more of ‘core-updates’ on ci.guix

[Andreas Enge]

Hello all,

Am Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 10:54:23AM +0200 schrieb Andreas Enge:
> > Well, it does not seem to work.
> >    https://ci.guix.gnu.org/
> > shows "all" under build, but
> >    https://ci.guix.gnu.org/jobset/core-updates
> > has a few evaluations made after the change that do not take it into
> > account. For instance, 341091 on commit 35b208c shows no new builds.
> > Help welcome, I have no idea what is happening!
> It looks like since my change to "all" of core-updates, the dashboard
> has also disappeared; for instance I see no dots in
>    https://ci.guix.gnu.org/eval/341091/dashboard

Ludovic and Chris have corrected a problem in dune.scm in commit
   01d9859821c5df6cc76c59e48fddd3c8cfa88ff0
Now all of core-updates is being built, and the dashboard is back.
Thanks a lot!

This means that people can now work on repairing their favourite missing
package, while having substitutes available from berlin (there are also
some on bordeaux).

The situation looks quite good for x86_64, and a bit less so on i686.
The aarch64 dashboard is completely red, due to an early build failure
by timeout of gcc.

powerpc is also completely red due to an early build failure in libstdc++,
see the last few lines of
   https://ci.guix.gnu.org/build/707624/log/raw
and this bug report:
   http://issues.guix.trop.in/61879

Andreas

Re: Building more of ‘core-updates’ on ci.guix

[Josselin Poiret]

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Hi Andreas and everyone,

Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr> writes:

> Ludovic and Chris have corrected a problem in dune.scm in commit
>    01d9859821c5df6cc76c59e48fddd3c8cfa88ff0
> Now all of core-updates is being built, and the dashboard is back.
> Thanks a lot!
>
> This means that people can now work on repairing their favourite missing
> package, while having substitutes available from berlin (there are also
> some on bordeaux).

Should we organize a code sprint soon to bring the community together
and try and get this finally merged?  I can take care of sending a mail
to guix-devel, as long as we have enough helping hands for the fateful
day(s).

If so, would next week-end (15-16 april) work?

Best,
-- 
Josselin Poiret

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Re: core-updates sprint (was: Building more of ‘core-updates’ on ci.guix)

[Andreas Enge]

Am Sat, Apr 08, 2023 at 12:28:07PM +0200 schrieb Josselin Poiret:
> Should we organize a code sprint soon to bring the community together
> and try and get this finally merged?  I can take care of sending a mail
> to guix-devel, as long as we have enough helping hands for the fateful
> day(s).
> If so, would next week-end (15-16 april) work?

Excellent idea! I will be available one of the days (tentatively Sunday,
but it will depend on the weather as I would like to go to a gardening
faire ;-)) I suppose we would then coordinate on the #guix channel on IRC?

The powerpc bug has apparently been fixed by one of the latest commits,
so it makes sense to advance. aarch64 is in very bad shape (maybe due to
a lack of build power), and i686 could also do better. But I think we have
a basis for substantial progress.

Andreas

Re: Building more of ‘core-updates’ on ci.guix

[Simon Tournier]

Hi,

On sam., 08 avril 2023 at 12:28, Josselin Poiret <dev@jpoiret.xyz> wrote:

> Should we organize a code sprint soon to bring the community together
> and try and get this finally merged?  I can take care of sending a mail
> to guix-devel, as long as we have enough helping hands for the fateful
> day(s).

Nice idea!

I would suggest to send an email to guix-devel explaining how to
reconfigure using ’core-updates’ for testing and then report the
potential issues.

As an example:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
$ guix time-machine --branch=core-updates -- weather
computing 22 758 package derivations for x86_64-linux...
looking for 23 843 store items on https://ci.guix.gnu.org...
https://ci.guix.gnu.org ☀
  85.2% substitutes available (20 310 out of 23 843)
  at least 99 872,4 MiB of nars (compressed)
  161 269,2 MiB on disk (uncompressed)
  0,005 seconds per request (121,3 seconds in total)
  196,6 requests per second

  27.6% (976 out of 3 533) of the missing items are queued
  at least 1 000 queued builds
      aarch64-linux: 32 (3.2%)
      powerpc64le-linux: 13 (1.3%)
      x86_64-linux: 955 (95.5%)
  build rate: 508.47 builds per hour
      x86_64-linux: 485.98 builds per hour
      i686-linux: 62.03 builds per hour
looking for 23 843 store items on https://bordeaux.guix.gnu.org...
https://bordeaux.guix.gnu.org ⛈
  35.5% substitutes available (8 467 out of 23 843)
  at least 17 312,7 MiB of nars (compressed)
  62 000,0 MiB on disk (uncompressed)
  0,010 seconds per request (239,3 seconds in total)
  99,7 requests per second
  (continuous integration information unavailable)
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Then, the missing from my manifest are:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
$ guix time-machine --branch=core-updates \
       -- weather -m ~/.config/guix/manifests/emacs.scm --display-missing

[...]

Substitutes are missing for the following items:
  /gnu/store/qwm340cgp45w231jzhgs131vv2y4a8d6-ocaml-yojson-2.0.2                                                                            x86_64-linux
  /gnu/store/3d4n5l41vvcqby9jsrwf582n5mqss3di-ocaml-merlin-4.7-414                                                                          x86_64-linux
  /gnu/store/wc2srqbis7nyn0kbx5z3lv17xncr7wvc-ocaml-uuseg-15.0.0                                                                            x86_64-linux
  /gnu/store/8ij1pgrjrnzs8nzhq7c8xy1fvlyh1fkk-ocaml-uucp-15.0.0                                                                             x86_64-linux
  /gnu/store/rm0c052hajwypds3dfmz3dbhgxsx7bwi-ocaml-uutf-1.0.3                                                                              x86_64-linux
  /gnu/store/92sq9lr2y5k1zmfxj2z1ab2apzmhz1cf-ocaml-zed-3.2.1                                                                               x86_64-linux
  /gnu/store/h8v335ykhqkmcdv329w2wr0m3fpqny26-ocaml-odoc-2.2.0                                                                              x86_64-linux
  /gnu/store/srnhncz8lr55q677bqpnhfsla59cbh42-ocaml-mew-0.1.0                                                                               x86_64-linux
  /gnu/store/mrz4hihvdmf67rdpph821881fw7lz3rl-ocaml-mew-vi-0.5.0                                                                            x86_64-linux
  /gnu/store/dlsqm5yw7l8a33flr9r11k58ywk57s8x-ocaml-react-1.2.2                                                                             x86_64-linux
  /gnu/store/fk3hyh3lr145z6hglbpy3hph13lqw0hb-ocaml-lwt-react-1.2.0                                                                         x86_64-linux
  /gnu/store/km6lqkbrxssmf3h7ryy01ab72z5a30ry-ocaml-topkg-1.0.6                                                                             x86_64-linux
  /gnu/store/ddff0c1zb3nkfns72c1xg87hs6kyqcag-ocaml-mtime-2.0.0                                                                             x86_64-linux
  /gnu/store/9vz8xard511cz04cpfnvgvia3r5avx2s-ocaml-fmt-0.9.0                                                                               x86_64-linux
  /gnu/store/lbfazpx5fgk6jabas4pyvibk3wp4y1qv-ocaml-logs-0.7.0                                                                              x86_64-linux
  /gnu/store/h899y7ah0a1rxls005xsjz7zzynrxj2h-ocaml-lambda-term-3.3.1                                                                       x86_64-linux
  /gnu/store/l2mg99br25hsmk2w5h6hxlcch95py3hp-ocaml-utop-2.10.0                                                                             x86_64-linux
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Well, from https://ci.guix.gnu.org/ let click on the “screen”
(dashboard) under Action and then in the search bar, let type “ocaml-”
thus it display all the red.  Let pick one red: ocaml-angstrom-0.15.0,
then “Show more“ then the red cross and we are at ocaml-ppxlib-0.25.1.
Let click to ‘raw’, bottom, the error seems:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
+  egrep: warning: egrep is obsolescent; using grep -E
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

probably because the update of grep from 3.6 to 3.8.  Then, I have my
homework at fixing these OCaml packages… if no one beats me.. :-)


Cheers,
simon

Notes from the Guix Days

[Ludovic Courtès]

Hello Guix!

I’ve pushed the notes from the Guix Days to the maintenance repository:

  https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix/maintenance.git/tree/doc/guix-days-2020

The notes are very raw so don’t hesitate to start discussions on the
topics you’re the most interested in!

Enjoy.  :-)

Ludo’.

Re: Notes from the Guix Days

[Pierre Neidhardt]

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I've pushed notes on the perfect setup.
Lots of work to do there, contributions to Geiser and a non-Emacsy setup
are welcome! :)

-- 
Pierre Neidhardt
https://ambrevar.xyz/

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