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If someone creates a staging > branch, will cuirass see that and start building it? Or could it just > stay in limbo for months? Deleting the staging branch when it's merged seems sensible to me regardless of whether you want to use that branch in the future. As far as I'm concerned, while there have been disucssions of changing the branching strategy, the guidance as written down hasn't changed yet (there are some suggested changes in [1]). The changes in [1] still keep the 300 dependent limit on pushing changes directly to master though. As for the Cuirass configuration, it might need changing. You can either ask on guix-devel/guix-sysadmin for someone to do this, or ask on guix-sysadmin to get access to Cuirass so that you can use the admin interface yourself [2]. 2: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2023-06/msg00009.html > Concerning the specific case of sbcl dependents, they build pretty fast. > On my machine, building all of them took less than one hour. So the > period during which some substitutes are missing is pretty short. > > [1] https://issues.guix.gnu.org/63459 That's still time people will be without substitutes, and because these changes in effect "jumped the queue", that's also time the build farm won't be building changes from patches or the branch(s) that it's meant to be working on (since the master branch builds have priority). --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKlBAEBCgCPFiEEPonu50WOcg2XVOCyXiijOwuE9XcFAmSAffNfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDNF ODlFRUU3NDU4RTcyMEQ5NzU0RTBCMjVFMjhBMzNCMEI4NEY1NzcRHG1haWxAY2Jh aW5lcy5uZXQACgkQXiijOwuE9XdvNRAAn8oypda1P4ZhSyvKHXf8LwiQn225JVF6 aL+bNCfBsiQKfCNBCTtsrnVMC+nnW+4Zan3Lg1/Tjg1O7xTcYt3NT6NUQChusdMS IsJqgXX/C6FMd+2Cl7SVXzAjyFU07HK4lxyA077XcbP0JOo/B2ewFhTJWcccLPIm LGTCsz4mwCfsUbFc87bFC6OpdSf2Rfk+Q0vZLllekB2lDzlKJStEsfTjgK1La9R7 SUHgmKnBpbtudIdI9Gv8qr4cyYOaNFEM0s/gTAEDJL9rwMd9NIgrF74DZ9SdfZH9 hWi5w22tvnRWtLAIs/F6XMu/oJt5UZxHA165oUvdcVQASp4XM1RambkF/BYF5Ntn evEId6ut5ptEXwT6PXs4M8L8x3OYecnkn+3jmcSX1ai632/mMS0/BFKj5L0mmIG7 tdvfGHZCBqAFWI07tgvy9gQsN0ycYsrijyMuVfcCxXGaivt/ER7vwo/QaL5LDbKS vRR44daeqIHtBTTp+Z0jvPAsj/uldlS7Z0NtZ6dD4fBvqynlCtmUbX4iJraOmPVP QWik9FA0i0sjbEnzyMegWBcmME0MDIsWGiRG2+jkdhMCqGI++EmGS5DIg+zgS7+m 57+VEU6WTLewOzNDcUcAaic2LRnlQ2Ap6Per40PGzlyA6FVvVmdcwePii5GEzZfM Kv52hOJZrzg= =A4xd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--