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What you describe is a very restrictive license, unlike Creative Commons. Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide=E2=80=99s non-restrictive, free culture stance is= not required in GNU, but non-free art is too much hassle for most of us. You are okay with playback and modification of your song (which you make possible by publishing the source), but for Guix only and you want to be informed. If you clearly state this, it is a license. But: For programs, the GNU philosophy is that granting the right to use, study, modify for *any* purpose is the best choice, except GNU licenses often disallow restricting the program. Songs are different from programs, though I believe Guix people would demand the rights before including your song in the guix-artwork repository. https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix/guix-artwork.git Also note that criminals (and even A.I. companies praised in media) often disregard licenses. > 5. > The creative commons suggest point 2: > > Do you want attribution for your work? > Yes. Anyone using my work must include proper attribution. > No. Anyone can use my work, even without giving me attribution. > > I guess,it is safer to say: Yes, > that this song can't be misused so easily out in the world if I add > only GP as my name? > Am I right? No, I don=E2=80=99t see any connection between misuse and whether you use y= our full name. > 10. > The creative commons suggest point 7: > > Attribution Details > > Filling out this form is optional, but helps others attribute your > work to you, and fills in machine-readable code. > Title of Work > Creator of Work > Link to Work > Link to Creator Profile > Year Of Creation > > Link to Work: > > Is it good to give the > help-guix@gnu.org archive website > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-guix/2024-05/msg00063.html > > or the > > https://www.mytuxedo.de/index.php/s/fa88o8iHCYfDFdR > link > > as the attribution details, > because I have no website? Normally attribution is to your name and/or e-mail address. > > 11. > I guess I would have to copy the licence > as rich text > as footnote under the song The license can be very short, but restrictive licenses are often long to be explicit about all that is and is not allowed, when they allow more than the short restrictive =E2=80=9CAll rights reserved=E2=80=9D defau= lt. For well-known licenses, the name of the license like CC-BY-SA and the version of the license is enough to tell. Regards, Florian