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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -5.57 X-Spam-Score: -5.57 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 8411ECC8F X-Migadu-Scanner: mx11.migadu.com X-TUID: 2Ja2waZCE4F2 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ian Eure writes: >> We've had for many months a feature in QA [1] where people can mark >> patches as being reviewed and looking like they're ready to be >> merged, >> which is personally what I hope will mitigate this feeling of "I >> cannot >> help you since I don't have commit access", because you can help, >> you >> can review the patches and if you think they're ready to merge, you >> can >> record that, and this does help highlight patches that are ready to >> merge. >> > > Yes, I=E2=80=99ve used it before. Unfortunately, it doesn=E2=80=99t appe= ar to be > making a material difference, as the size of the backlog continues to > grow[1]. Progress on this problem would result in the backlog > decreasing. It doesn=E2=80=99t matter how many reviewers say it looks go= od -- > a committer is required to actually push the changes. I think it's unfair to say it's not making a difference, I really rely on it at least. I also think measuring the backlog and using that as the success metric is unwise, what we really want is an increase in throughput. I think it does matter if people take the time to review patches, as that is what takes the time and provides the value. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKlBAEBCgCPFiEEPonu50WOcg2XVOCyXiijOwuE9XcFAmbDCAtfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDNF ODlFRUU3NDU4RTcyMEQ5NzU0RTBCMjVFMjhBMzNCMEI4NEY1NzcRHG1haWxAY2Jh aW5lcy5uZXQACgkQXiijOwuE9XctThAAirMjXhI8pG+7hfTJ8hahrcEsDUSUQV5h F9bSyJyc/SXwwn2mVuKuPeUYFKl5EDB/1LOMDRMdwV4zvHMgizjKm+TFmNtrRDnm b4q0Q4gzuRiOWESYO1960nBpFbNtc30u2ODbuAFOS+0ygXZe2NPg4iwPytlNi2R0 Nz7MtDHpWxHpsWAGztphs4gQfC4mWW2QdJsqoh6836cCUAO+bIF5NZqr0uy0cGfh WdmrSe1rLsQiSFhwImmMP4miRKSTkiRVG9yjNfUYhxQ1n2nFABqHrQarnkAwfypa bl2TXMKpNFve7/hJp61NOmN1nSz8I1OJu9Ry6E4QiZJEBpa5aCaJVpIDRnR9vga6 vjDmc4glZEESTyqU3Q7Wm6Kj+Q2hKz7n6jt7pYVuFO4fQ4KkKw9zPN07MaBHUjEH FYB2roOoG0kcEhF/NJrGoXwhbDvWwOode+v7k9xGK31jBni+RlTtmB3mr6p9uXGd q8mQgsTp7975s+dbJ+dWChdCwf6qpysnWhw1s0hUZ/FmpLFJZ6EJWbzQAyXR1nhz g0R49Rv9EfA45MP+XZuL1dARzMhotdRwqkuMbMPHE7dRHsoFzCRcmeAas5OStyFL OwZK++AyfklgguDbWeukn8dTOelBYDbXGX4wo546pBd5S5uAePqDxnwoNzTTu+dp JJy0K59xsWg= =ACH9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--