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From: Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net>
To: Christopher Allan Webber <cwebber@dustycloud.org>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: PulseAudio
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2016 22:43:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87egclv9tv.fsf@elephly.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lh6ty3wb.fsf@dustycloud.org>


Christopher Allan Webber <cwebber@dustycloud.org> writes:

> Ludovic Courtès writes:
>
>> Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name> skribis:
>>
>>> I guess the factors are:
>>> 1) Does GuixSD have a default audio setup that we should target? If
>>> GuixSD uses PulseAudio, then I think it would be good for eSpeak to be
>>> integrated into that sytem.
>>> 2) Does this package, which launches PulseAudio, work for anyone on a
>>> foreign distro?
>>
>> It’s not written anywhere, but I think most of our audio packages target
>> PulseAudio (that’s what I use on GuixSD.)  I’m in favor of consistently
>> using it, and it would probably be best to write it down in the manual.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Ludo’.
>
> I'd really like it if we just agreed that in general, yeah, we want
> Pulseaudio support.

I agree with Pulseaudio *support*, but this does not mean that we’d have
to link all applications that have an optional Pulseaudio backend with
the Pulseaudio libraries, does it?

Since I’m not using Pulseaudio I cannot vouch for this to work, but ALSA
can be configured to use redirect audio streams to Pulseaudio (if it’s
running).  I know of no application that offers a Pulseaudio backend but
cannot use ALSA directly.  This redirection from ALSA to Pulseaudio
could be implemented as an etc-service, providing the required
configuration file.

My experience with Pulseaudio was very different (and still is if I
count support requests from friends), but maybe that’s just because I
don’t *always* want Pulseaudio.  I found it difficult to reliably
disable/suspend Pulseaudio whenever I wanted to do audio work (=
involving JACK).  It often just got in the way.

On other machines where I didn’t use JACK regularly Pulseaudio was
acceptable, I guess.  It makes me shed a salty tear that something so
complicated and layered as Pulseaudio was necessary to tame the mess in
the Linux [sic] audio world :-/

~~ Ricardo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-02-09 21:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-12  5:26 [PATCH 0/2] Add eSpeak Leo Famulari
2016-01-12  5:26 ` [PATCH 1/2] gnu: Add sonic Leo Famulari
2016-01-13 14:10   ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-01-14  3:28     ` Leo Famulari
2016-01-12  5:26 ` [PATCH 2/2] gnu: Add espeak Leo Famulari
2016-01-13 14:17   ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-01-14  3:27     ` Leo Famulari
2016-01-15  0:38       ` Leo Famulari
2016-01-15 16:15         ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-01-14 12:02     ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-01-14 13:32       ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-01-17 16:09         ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-01-17 20:30           ` PulseAudio & ALSA Ludovic Courtès
2016-02-09 21:45             ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-01-12  5:58 ` [PATCH 0/2] Add eSpeak Leo Famulari
2016-01-12  6:01   ` Leo Famulari
2016-01-12 15:48   ` Andreas Enge
2016-01-12 19:30     ` Leo Famulari
2016-01-13  0:09       ` Leo Famulari
2016-01-13 14:01 ` PulseAudio Ludovic Courtès
2016-02-09 21:26   ` PulseAudio Christopher Allan Webber
2016-02-09 21:35     ` PulseAudio Leo Famulari
2016-02-12  9:12       ` PulseAudio Ludovic Courtès
2016-02-12 10:21         ` PulseAudio Ricardo Wurmus
2016-02-12 11:13           ` PulseAudio Alex Sassmannshausen
2016-02-15  7:38             ` PulseAudio Ricardo Wurmus
2016-02-15  8:56               ` PulseAudio Alex Sassmannshausen
2016-02-09 21:43     ` Ricardo Wurmus [this message]
2016-02-09 23:36     ` PulseAudio Jookia

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