From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Subject: Re: Add murmur. Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 23:50:02 +0100 Message-ID: <87efz7asit.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20170201204312.3005-1-contact.ng0@cryptolab.net> <87mvdvxq9v.fsf@gnu.org> <20170209182030.ngn2dsdfbzsmymdj@wasp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50716) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cbxXW-00089a-Ac for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2017 17:50:11 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cbxXS-000403-EX for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2017 17:50:10 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:52482) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cbxXS-0003zw-CK for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2017 17:50:06 -0500 Received: from reverse-83.fdn.fr ([80.67.176.83]:59050 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cbxXR-00031E-Pi for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2017 17:50:06 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20170209182030.ngn2dsdfbzsmymdj@wasp> (ng0's message of "Thu, 9 Feb 2017 18:20:30 +0000") List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: guix-devel@gnu.org ng0 skribis: > On 17-02-09 17:50:04, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: >> Hi ng0! >>=20 >> contact.ng0@cryptolab.net skribis: >>=20 >> > This patch adds an proposed change to mumble, murmur as an output. >>=20 >> I=E2=80=99m reluctant to =E2=80=9Cnon-standard=E2=80=9D outputs like thi= s. The reason for >> multiple outputs should be to reduce the closure size for standards >> uses. What do we gain by not included murmurd in =E2=80=9Cout=E2=80=9D = in this case? >>=20 >> Thanks, >> Ludo=E2=80=99. > > We remove the server component (murmurd) from the client component > (mumble). I imagine that if you run murmurd, you will not want mumble > in the same user profile. And if you run mumble, you probably don't > want murmurd. The default is a client, adding murmur output is logical. > But this is just my view.. I would not want a server unless I explicitly > expressed my intention to have it > > What do you think? I think the only reason to separate things usually is size, not =E2=80=9Caesthetics.=E2=80=9D So I=E2=80=99d be in favor of keeping both i= n the same output if there=E2=80=99s no size problem. How does that sound? Ludo=E2=80=99.