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From: taylanbayirli@gmail.com (Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer)
To: Christopher Allan Webber <cwebber@dustycloud.org>
Cc: guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Staying on-topic
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2017 21:00:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87efxad48h.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bmsesy2a.fsf@dustycloud.org> (Christopher Allan Webber's message of "Sun, 02 Apr 2017 09:07:09 -0500")

Christopher Allan Webber <cwebber@dustycloud.org> writes:

> Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer writes:
>
>> That's why I was worrying.  I think it's fine to ban misgendering, on
>> the condition that, should a female-born person feel insulted at the use
>> of feminine pronouns for a male-born person, that too should be banned,
>> effectively forcing neutral pronouns so the project takes no sides.
>
> The Code of Conduct's reflection of gendering, and how it applies to
> (mis)gendering is referring to this type of thing:
>
>   https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Transphobia&oldid=773143601#Misgendering_and_exclusion
>
> I think the code of conduct is pretty clear about it:
>
>   We are committed to making participation in this project a
>   harassment-free experience for everyone, regardless of
>   [...] gender, gender identity and expression [...]
>
> "Gender identity and expression" is pretty clear: trans-exclusionary
> behavior doesn't belong here.
>
> It's very simple: respect peoples' preferred pronouns and *drop this
> subject*.  This topic is over, and that's been signaled as such from
> the maintainers and many other people in this community.  Please don't
> reopen it.

If the project takes this ideological side, then it effectively excludes
some women who find this to be sexist.

Are the Guix maintainers fine with that?

Taylan

  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-02 19:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-23  5:46 My recent appalling behaviour on this list John Darrington
2017-03-30 14:09 ` Catonano
2017-03-31 19:18   ` Gender politics Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2017-04-01  8:39     ` ng0
2017-04-01 22:11     ` Staying on-topic Ludovic Courtès
2017-04-02 11:43       ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2017-04-02 14:07         ` Christopher Allan Webber
2017-04-02 19:00           ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer [this message]
2017-04-02 20:15             ` Ludovic Courtès

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