Error al extraer iso guix GNU con linux

Error al extraer iso guix GNU con linux

[Jorge Terán]

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Favor prestar ayuda para resolver la descarga.

Saludos

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Re: Error al extraer iso guix GNU con linux

[Laura Lazzati]

Hola Jorge!

Cómo estás?

Por lo que puedo ver tenés un inconveniente de permisos, lo descargaste
como root tal vez?
Intentá correr `sudo chown <tu usuario> <nombreDelArchivo>` desde una
terminal y decime la salida de eso.

Un saludo!
Laura

-For Guix folks, sorry for  my Spanish, I am trying to help :)-

Re: Error al extraer iso guix GNU con linux

[Tobias Geerinckx-Rice]

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Jorge,

[I hope English is all right; I don't speak Spanish good.]

Jorge Terán wrote:
> Favor prestar ayuda para resolver la descarga.

This isn't a problem with the download.

The Guix System installer that you've downloaded is designed to be 
decompressed and written directly to a DVD or USB drive using dd. 
This process is described in detail in the manual[0], including 
the ‘xz’ command to decompress the image.

You'll have more fun if you follow it step by step: don't skip the 
boring ones, and don't add any of your own (like this one ;-)

Good luck!

T G-R

[0]: 
https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/es/html_node/Instalacion-del-sistema.html#Instalaci_00f3n-del-sistema

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Re: Error al extraer iso guix GNU con linux

[Tobias Geerinckx-Rice]

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Laura, Jorge,

Laura Lazzati wrote:
> Por lo que puedo ver tenés un inconveniente de permisos, lo 
> descargaste
> como root tal vez?
> Intentá correr `sudo chown <tu usuario> <nombreDelArchivo>` 
> desde una
> terminal y decime la salida de eso.

From the ‘/boot’ in the screenshot, I gathered that they were 
trying to extract the *contents* of the ISO, not the ISO itself 
(or rather, that their ‘helpful’ GUI tool is doing so :-/).

I don't use Gnome, though; is that assumption correct?

Kind regards,

T G-R

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Re: Error al extraer iso guix GNU con linux

[Laura Lazzati]

Hi Tobias, Hola Jorge

Por lo que entiendo, Jorge está intentando extraer el archivo, por eso le
pregunté cómo lo descargó y si puede ponerse como owner del mismo para ver
qué sucede // As far as I can see, Jorge is trying to extract the tar file,
that's why I asked him how he downloaded it and if he can be the owner of
the file to see what happens.

Yo uso Gnome // I use Gnome.


Saludos! // Regards :)
Laura

Re: Error al extraer iso guix GNU con linux

[Tobias Geerinckx-Rice]

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Laura,

Thanks for helping out in Spanish!

Laura Lazzati wrote:
> Por lo que entiendo, Jorge está intentando extraer el archivo, 
> por eso le
> pregunté cómo lo descargó y si puede ponerse como owner del 
> mismo para ver
> qué sucede // As far as I can see, Jorge is trying to extract 
> the tar file,
> that's why I asked him how he downloaded it and if he can be the 
> owner of
> the file to see what happens.

Aha, but this is the .iso, not the .tar file.  There's little to 
no point in extracting the ISO.

> Yo uso Gnome // I use Gnome.

Nobody's perfect,

T G-R

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Re: Error al extraer iso guix GNU con linux

[Laura Lazzati]

Hola de nuevo // Hi again!

On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 2:40 PM Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@tobias.gr> wrote:

> Laura,
>
> Thanks for helping out in Spanish!
>
De nada// You are welcome :)


> Aha, but this is the .iso, not the .tar file.  There's little to
> no point in extracting the ISO.
>
Sí, me confundí de extensión de archivo por la costumbre, perdón.Tiene que
descomprimir el .iso, acabo de descargarlo para probar y me funcionó en
línea de comandos con `xz -d  guix-system-install-1.0.1.x86_64-linux.iso.xz
(en tu caso Jorge usá el nombre del archivo que descargaste). // Yes, I
made a mistake because of being used to the other file extension, sorry. He
has to decompress the .iso. I have just downloaded to try it and it worked
on the CLI with that command (in his case he has to change the filename to
the one he downloaded).


> > Yo uso Gnome // I use Gnome.
>
> Nobody's perfect,
>
jajaj dejanos usar la GUI que nos guste  y no alejes a nuevos usuarios //
haha let us use the GUI that we like and don't discourage new users ;)

Saludos // Regards :)
Laura

Re: Error al extraer iso guix GNU con linux

[sirgazil]

Buenas, Jorge:


---- On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 10:39:31 -0500 Jorge Terán <jorget778@gmail.com> wrote ----

 > Favor prestar ayuda para resolver la descarga. 

Como dice Laura, hay un problema de permisos al intentar descomprimir el archivo usando Nautilus (conocido ahora como GNOME Files). A mí me ocurre igual (no sé si esto es un error). Sin embargo, si se descomprime siguiendo las instrucciones del manual, la descompresión ocurre sin problemas. Es decir, podés ejecutar las siguientes órdenes en un terminal para descomprimir el archivo ".xz":

    $ cd ~/Descargas
    $ xz -d guix-system-install-1.0.1.i686-linux.iso.xz

Estas instrucciones, junto con las demás instrucciones recomendadas para instalar y configurar el sistema, están en el manual:

https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/en/html_node/System-Installation.html

Yo recomendaría seguir el manual al pie de la letra, como dice Tobias, para evitar resultados raros. Así también, si en cualquier momento se te presenta otro problema, nos podés escribir especificando el paso concreto que estás siguiendo en el manual, de manera que todos podamos estar en la misma página.

Suerte con la instalación :)

Re: Error al extraer iso guix GNU con linux

[Tobias Geerinckx-Rice]

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Sirgazil,

sirgazil wrote:
> As far as I can see, Jorge is not trying to decompress the ISO 
> but the ".iso.xz" file, which you have to decompress before 
> copying it to the installation media.

No…

Anyway, I think ‘follow the manual’ is the correct general 
solution to the problem (and many like it), and that message seems 
to have come across loud and clear.

Good luck, Jorge!

T G-R

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Re: Error al extraer iso guix GNU con linux

[sirgazil]

---- On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 15:56:51 -0500 Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@tobias.gr> wrote ----

 > Sirgazil, 
 >  
 > sirgazil wrote: 
 > > As far as I can see, Jorge is not trying to decompress the ISO 
 > > but the ".iso.xz" file, which you have to decompress before 
 > > copying it to the installation media. 
 >  
 > No… 


I say so because the first step in the manual for "Copying to a USB Stick" and "Burning on a DVD" says, "Decompress the image using the xz command: xz -d guix-system-install-1.0.1.system.iso.xz". I don't understand...

Re: Error al extraer iso guix GNU con linux

[Tobias Geerinckx-Rice]

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Good morning!

sirgazil wrote:
> [I wrote]:
>> sirgazil wrote:
>>> As far as I can see, Jorge is not trying to decompress the ISO 
>>> but the ".iso.xz" file, which you have to decompress before 
>>> copying it to the installation media.
>>
>> No… 
>
> I say so because the first step in the manual for "Copying to a 
> USB
> Stick" and "Burning on a DVD" says, "Decompress the image using 
> the
> xz command: xz -d guix-system-install-1.0.1.system.iso.xz".

Exactly: ‘decompress the image’, not ‘decompress the image and 
extract all its files’, as was being done in the screenshot. 
That's a pretty big difference!

Hence why it's best to follow the commands given in the manual: 
even if one doesn't know the difference between ‘decompressing’ 
and ‘extracting’ above, the command will do the right thing for 
you.

Kind regards,

T G-R

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Re: Error al extraer iso guix GNU con linux

[Laura Lazzati]

Hola/Hi!

Pobre Jorge, le armamos un thread de mails // Poor Jorge, we created a
thread of mails :/

>
> Exactly: ‘decompress the image’, not ‘decompress the image and
> extract all its files’, as was being done in the screenshot.
> That's a pretty big difference!
>
Tobias, fijate que Jorge está seleccionado el archivo .xz, ese es el que
está tratando de descomprimir en el .iso, no el .iso //
Tobias, note that Jorge is trying to decompress the .xz file to get the
.iso, that is the file selected, not the .iso :)

Regards :)
Laura

Re: Error al extraer iso guix GNU con linux

[sirgazil]

---- On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 00:27:22 -0500 Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@tobias.gr> wrote ----

 > Good morning! 
 >  
 > sirgazil wrote: 
 > > [I wrote]: 
 > >> sirgazil wrote: 
 > >>> As far as I can see, Jorge is not trying to decompress the ISO 
 > >>> but the ".iso.xz" file, which you have to decompress before 
 > >>> copying it to the installation media. 
 > >> 
 > >> No… 
 > > 
 > > I say so because the first step in the manual for "Copying to a 
 > > USB 
 > > Stick" and "Burning on a DVD" says, "Decompress the image using 
 > > the 
 > > xz command: xz -d guix-system-install-1.0.1.system.iso.xz". 
 >  
 > Exactly: ‘decompress the image’, not ‘decompress the image and 
 > extract all its files’, as was being done in the screenshot. 
 > That's a pretty big difference! 


Ah, so using GNOME Files you end up doing both, decompress and extract. Thanks :)

Re: Error al extraer iso guix GNU con linux

[Tobias Geerinckx-Rice]

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Laura,

Laura Lazzati wrote:
> Tobias, fijate que Jorge está seleccionado el archivo .xz, ese 
> es el que
> está tratando de descomprimir en el .iso, no el .iso

Yo sé que lo está intentando, pero no está sucediendo. :-)

[Apologies if that accidentally insults anyone's mother & I 
promise never to try writing in Spanish again.]

Kind regards,

T G-R

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Re: Error al extraer iso guix GNU con linux

[Tobias Geerinckx-Rice]

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sirgazil,

sirgazil wrote:
> Ah, so using GNOME Files you end up doing both, decompress and 
> extract. Thanks :)

Yup.  Makes perfect sense for ‘.tar.xz’ files: no “regular” user 
wants the ‘.tar’ file, they want the sweet content.  Seems the 
Gnome authors think the same of ‘.iso.xz’.

Maybe they also offer separate ‘Extract…’ and ‘Decompress…’ 
options somewhere. 🤷  Using ‘xz’ avoids all this confusion.  And 
megathread.

Alas poor Jorge indeed, Laura,

T G-R

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