From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp2 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id YNkiIUYvg2BwMgEAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 22:34:14 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp2 with LMTPS id aCu+HEYvg2AOBwAAB5/wlQ (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 20:34:14 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 26FCD1584B for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 22:34:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:60020 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1la2VB-0002XB-Bh for larch@yhetil.org; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 16:34:13 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52940) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1la2V1-0002VZ-8A for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 16:34:03 -0400 Received: from mira.cbaines.net ([2a01:7e00:e000:2f8:fd4d:b5c7:13fb:3d27]:35505) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1la2Uz-0004Ys-Qo for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 16:34:03 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [IPv6:2a02:8010:68c1:0:8ac0:b4c7:f5c8:7caa]) by mira.cbaines.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7CE7D27BC7C; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 21:34:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from capella (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id eaa23097; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 20:34:00 +0000 (UTC) References: <874kgn4plq.fsf@cbaines.net> <87lf9hszte.fsf@gnu.org> <20210418024930.GA11854@LionPure> User-agent: mu4e 1.4.15; emacs 27.1 From: Christopher Baines To: Bengt Richter Subject: Re: Security related tooling project In-reply-to: <20210418024930.GA11854@LionPure> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2021 21:34:00 +0100 Message-ID: <87eef0hhaf.fsf@cbaines.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:7e00:e000:2f8:fd4d:b5c7:13fb:3d27; envelope-from=mail@cbaines.net; helo=mira.cbaines.net X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." 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That's a point to consider I think. Most of what I'm thinking about is for published vulnerabilities in software packaged for Guix, but you raise a valid point, so thanks for bringing it up. 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