From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id QE8DE+M1ymB2OQEAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 19:33:23 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id gCKBDuM1ymDpbgAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 17:33:23 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C5BF2358A for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 19:33:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:33930 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ltZPl-0007eC-EV for larch@yhetil.org; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 13:33:21 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55926) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ltZPX-0007e1-Lx for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 13:33:07 -0400 Received: from ns13.heimat.it ([46.4.214.66]:33558) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ltZPQ-0007ML-N0 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 13:33:07 -0400 Received: from localhost (ip6-localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns13.heimat.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC4B3021BA; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 17:32:56 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at ns13.heimat.it Received: from ns13.heimat.it ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns13.heimat.it [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mxxqYmHoHFG0; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 17:32:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bourrache.mug.xelera.it (unknown [93.56.171.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by ns13.heimat.it (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 412373021B7; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 17:32:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from roquette.mug.biscuolo.net (roquette [10.38.2.14]) by bourrache.mug.xelera.it (Postfix) with SMTP id C288CFEFA85; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 19:32:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: (nullmailer pid 3717 invoked by uid 1000); Wed, 16 Jun 2021 17:32:35 -0000 From: Giovanni Biscuolo To: Leo Famulari , Leo Prikler Subject: my apoligies (was Re: Telemetry on by default kitty) In-Reply-To: Organization: Xelera.eu References: <87czsq7oyl.fsf@disroot.org> <87bl8a92r4.fsf@nckx> <83e3ea6de4daa14a81c826d9200941719abe2f82.camel@student.tugraz.at> <877diy7c7w.fsf@disroot.org> <2e8ede06b4786e4604269b9a7a4a5f04b154040e.camel@student.tugraz.at> <05c05536dde5660ada17b9f4dc8dc041272c1a4a.camel@student.tugraz.at> <87a6nrnirc.fsf@xelera.eu> <9eb0df887ada7e2135206a4f6f6df40e37bc1ac4.camel@student.tugraz.at> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 19:32:34 +0200 Message-ID: <87eed1n2a5.fsf@xelera.eu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=46.4.214.66; envelope-from=g@xelera.eu; helo=ns13.heimat.it X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1623864803; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=bpqujKBsGptRMU2/bxBNruraUUOaTqAmUaJjwEuV9og=; b=MfpsWSxBLPR1CDFexQv6uVND7rERF1j+2NR4wg+ylm5BTmk0Oh29fLQ47hP9o2f7Yc7FGK NBPMBNxTeBCxFUjbM0+2E2ZH1vrcC8von9A6wVVtiof8ngbKX37mqgVkq+1dkqF3rDmJSv BoMPIvtVL/QLhDEDeYB+ZCS5C64UkedhZz78XMOrmDbao+pB0D5JWRT2y9KEKMDS9yN3Pm rbME2s4JIFabUnOoFs2M1NAWuAG6+DLYrHHLc/cCYRjqBNraGHd/w3rgbNsudTKYXFk14D Phe3usDsrxQkK6s3uuK9XX/cS0Joku5Q9YRuf64CAIRUp7C931OLp+e75m1hJA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1623864803; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=WwryUJe2UO/fVnMv6fQVUED7z6ZNvvWXFoX3Gpwco/DDCx2AHe+WHRjFux1de0CInWx+qx DlLBAxALjYbwnrR+oQQgTeueV+nd6qNy5OThRJdgQNWW1pj+pwTQelvdP0wKyaWhEWIuPw kZzOa3BYtCxcZQ6fx0sObxKFAs4zfq+sNCzp7W0jBBIqRAFFq/n20FZsoox1OVUkd+KgGH WemGbw88L9HMPk3S3LTjsR1OnuNB1r/ItyeGWXN7FQHXoxZmch40yP4RuwBRpVYIjvQQDd yX5ak2apTpyPcXg4fHBFOZXWpd6WIML+bQimQmKOKeY64b5LBjeRKPLe12JyEA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -4.52 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 6C5BF2358A X-Spam-Score: -4.52 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 5IrHyh7Zt3vR --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Leo F. and Leo P. Leo Famulari writes: > On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 11:39:59PM +0200, Leo Prikler wrote: >> Am Dienstag, den 15.06.2021, 19:24 +0200 schrieb Giovanni Biscuolo: >> > I'm sorry you don't see the point, but=20 > > Good grief... > >> Might be just me, but this phrasing appears a little aggressive given >> the overall tone of the message being=E2=80=A6 a little less so. > > Yeah, indeed. In my sentence: >>> I'm sorry you don't see the point, but please remember that [...] I was just repeating a few words from this sentence by Leo F.: >>>> [...] I don't personally see the point of treating telemetry as a >>>> special case in terms of trust or consent. Please can you (both) explain me what's aggressive in my above phrasing? I'm not a native speaker and I'm pretty sure my english needs much improvement, so I'll appreciate I you explain me what I did wrong and why you are calling my sentence "grief". 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