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And let the kernelspace >>>> component be unsubstitutable and the userspace component >>>> substitutable? >>> >>> That's a very good idea if possible. >> >> I agree that this would be a fine solution. > > AFAIK the licensing problem is just for the kernel modules binaries > (re)distribution, (obviously) not for the userspace binaries, so AFAIU > this would be a fine solution. Sorry, I spoke too soon above. It seems that there is a problem with including CDDL-licensed ZFS code on the userspace side. 'virt-manager' is distributed under GPLv2+ and links with 'libvirt'. > Meanwhile, what do you think about a temporary revert of commit > 61ccd756e5ff73b2f8dc3449df537f1c5adb5872 to avoid causing GNOME users > ZFS compilation upon update (if I correctly understand the issue)? Agreed, both for the reason you mentioned and also to avoid violating the GPL when we distribute 'virt-manager'. 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