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Christine Lemmer-Webber skribis: > "Obviously" Shepherd should use Spritely Goblins, which also does not > use GOOPS ;D Yup! I was thinking that a starting point would be to implement a =E2=80=9Cbridge=E2=80=9D as part of the new built-in =E2=80=9Cservice colle= ction=E2=80=9D (under shepherd/service/*.scm). >> I started that work, which mostly involves renaming things like >> accessors following typical Scheme conventions: >> >> https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/shepherd.git/log/?h=3Dwip-goopsless > > 404s for me. It=E2=80=99s merged now, and in 0.10.0rc1! :-) Ludo=E2=80=99.