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Mon, 19 Aug 2024 19:43:02 -0400 (EDT) References: <87le0v5avh.fsf@meson> <87y14utehn.fsf@cbaines.net> <87r0al4u65.fsf@meson> <87frr0q4fo.fsf@cbaines.net> User-agent: mu4e 1.8.13; emacs 28.2 From: Ian Eure To: Christopher Baines Cc: Sergio Pastor =?utf-8?Q?P=C3=A9rez?= , guix-devel Subject: Re: Request for assistance maintaining LibreWolf Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2024 16:14:32 -0700 In-reply-to: <87frr0q4fo.fsf@cbaines.net> Message-ID: <87ed6k3wqh.fsf@meson> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=103.168.172.147; envelope-from=ian@retrospec.tv; helo=fout4-smtp.messagingengine.com X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 4D99F69A56 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx13.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -9.65 X-Spam-Score: -9.65 X-TUID: PQzsGuoMFVEx Christopher Baines writes: > [[PGP Signed Part:Undecided]] > Ian Eure writes: > >>> We've had for many months a feature in QA [1] where people can=20 >>> mark >>> patches as being reviewed and looking like they're ready to be >>> merged, >>> which is personally what I hope will mitigate this feeling of=20 >>> "I >>> cannot >>> help you since I don't have commit access", because you can=20 >>> help, >>> you >>> can review the patches and if you think they're ready to=20 >>> merge, you >>> can >>> record that, and this does help highlight patches that are=20 >>> ready to >>> merge. >>> >> >> Yes, I=E2=80=99ve used it before. Unfortunately, it doesn=E2=80=99t app= ear to=20 >> be >> making a material difference, as the size of the backlog=20 >> continues to >> grow[1]. Progress on this problem would result in the backlog >> decreasing. It doesn=E2=80=99t matter how many reviewers say it looks=20 >> good -- >> a committer is required to actually push the changes. > > I think it's unfair to say it's not making a difference, I=20 > really rely > on it at least. I also think measuring the backlog and using=20 > that as the > success metric is unwise, what we really want is an increase in > throughput. > Throughput of patch review is useless without considering the rate=20 of new issues opened. It doesn=E2=80=99t matter how much review=20 throughput increases if the new issue rate increases faster. What=20 the graphs show is that the backlog has a trend of years-long=20 growth -- that only happens when the open rate exceeds the close=20 rate. The problem will continue to grow as long as that remains=20 the case. Thanks, =E2=80=94 Ian