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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.75 X-Spam-Score: -3.75 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 7E7057EEAE X-Migadu-Scanner: mx13.migadu.com X-TUID: FTN0OY0fbuiv Hi, On Sat, 26 Oct 2024 at 16:43, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: > (=E2=80=9CAs an online Guix discussion grows longer, the probability of e= nding > up talking about the email workflow approaches 1.=E2=80=9D) My comment to make it 1. ;-) > As someone who=E2=80=99s often repelled by web interfaces, I have also > experimented with forge.el, an Emacs interface to Git{Hub,Lab}, Forgejo, > and more; it is =E2=80=9Cpromising=E2=80=9D. > > But=E2=80=A6 =E2=80=A6Two very important features for me are still lacking: 1. Somehow, Web-interface forges are against user autonomy principle. In order to allow user autonomy, web-interface forges must work on standard API and standard protocol. Without standard, it=E2=80=99s a d= ead end. It=E2=80=99s not sustainable to work on some clients. How many y= ears of Git{Hub,Lab}? How many clients? 2. It=E2=80=99s hard to deal with the tracker without being online. As far I have tried, I need to be online for interacting and so I cannot batch: fetch some issues, process them offline, push my comments at once. All that said, such discussion about =E2=80=9Cemail workflow=E2=80=9D makes= me think it underlines an important point about Guix: it appears so easy to patch that the only focus remains on the patch submission. That=E2=80=99s a good thing! :-) Cheers, simon