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From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr>
Cc: bug-guix@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Porting to anything
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 10:36:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d2vu9ffb.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201302210038.58946.andreas@enge.fr> (Andreas Enge's message of "Thu, 21 Feb 2013 00:38:58 +0100")

Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr> skribis:

> The currently unsatisfying situation, according to "HACKING", is that 
> bootstrapping guix essentially starts by installing (and thus in the worst 
> case porting) nix.

Agreed.

> I have spent the evening working on a shell script automating the 
> compilation of the bootstrap binaries. Unsurprisingly, I end up 
> reprogramming in shell part of make-bootstrap.scm. (In particular, it cost 
> me some time to understand how to obtain statically linked binaries of the 
> binutils.) And I am only halfway through, and maybe made some errors in the 
> process that will only reveal themselves later.

Isn’t it equally unsatisfying?  :-)

> So I wonder whether the dependency on nix is essential in make-
> bootstrap.scm. Could one not renounce at working in a chroot with defined 
> inputs from nix, and execute the exact same code in the current 
> environment, using the programs available in the current system from the 
> user's path? Then guix could be bootstrapped easily on any gnu/linux 
> system.

Yes.  I outlined a plan in
<http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-guix/2013-01/msg00099.html>.

However, I really think cross-compilation is the way to go.  I have a
tentative set of packages for the cross-toolchain that’s not fully baked
yet, and then we’ll have to adjust gnu-build-system to support
cross-compilation.

So that won’t happen overnight, but we could work toward that goal for
the next month or so.

WDYT?

Ludo’, who sympathizes with the feeling of frustration.  :-/

  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-21  9:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-24 19:43 mips64el: No such file or directory: "/nix/store/*-glibc-2.13.drv" Nikita Karetnikov
2012-12-30 15:17 ` Ludovic Courtès
2012-12-30 16:14   ` Nikita Karetnikov
2012-12-30 17:58     ` Ludovic Courtès
2012-12-30 20:40       ` Nikita Karetnikov
2012-12-30 21:20         ` Ludovic Courtès
2012-12-30 22:43           ` Nikita Karetnikov
2012-12-31 12:21             ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-01-08 13:26               ` Porting to mips64el (was: mips64el: No such file or directory: "/nix/store/*-glibc-2.13.drv") Nikita Karetnikov
2013-01-08 13:34                 ` Porting to mips64el Ludovic Courtès
2013-01-08 14:52                   ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-01-08 16:30                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-01-08 18:18                       ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-01-08 20:50                         ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-01-09 15:53                           ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-01-09 21:42                             ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-01-11  4:08                               ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-01-11 13:28                                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-01-11 21:49                                   ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-01-11 23:44                                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-01-12 14:49                                       ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-01-12 15:06                                         ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-01-12 15:46                                           ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-01-12 21:01                                             ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-01-12 23:00                                               ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-01-13 20:49                                                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-01-19 16:49                                                   ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-01-19 17:45                                                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-01-20  7:39                                                       ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-01-20 14:33                                                         ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-01-22 22:51                                                           ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-01-23  5:01                                                             ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-01-23 15:35                                                               ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-01-23 22:08                                                                 ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-01-24 15:56                                                                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-01-26  4:33                                                                     ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-01-26 21:37                                                                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-01-27  5:47                                                                         ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-01-27 21:15                                                                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-01-28  5:51                                                                             ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-01-28 12:59                                                                               ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-01-29 17:57                                                                                 ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-01-29 21:00                                                                                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-01-29 21:59                                                                                     ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-01-29 22:02                                                                                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-01-29 23:29                                                                                         ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-01-30 20:58                                                                                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-01-30 23:03                                                                                             ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-01-31 12:50                                                                                               ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-01-31 19:32                                                                                                 ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-01-31 22:08                                                                                                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-02-01 23:43                                                                                                     ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-02-02 10:09                                                                                                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-02-02 12:32                                                                                                         ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-02-02 17:34                                                                                                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-02-02 20:47                                                                                                             ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-02-03 18:00                                                                                                               ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-02-05 20:53                                                                                                                 ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-02-05 22:00                                                                                                                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-02-06  9:27                                                                                                                     ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-02-06 14:26                                                                                                                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-02-08 22:43                                                                                                                         ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-02-08 23:11                                                                                                                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-02-11 20:50                                                                                                                             ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-02-11 21:34                                                                                                                               ` Andreas Enge
2013-02-11 22:10                                                                                                                                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-02-12  2:37                                                                                                                                   ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-02-12  2:42                                                                                                                                     ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-02-12  7:43                                                                                                                                       ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-02-14  7:50                                                                                                                                         ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-02-14 11:33                                                                                                                                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-02-15 20:11                                                                                                                                             ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-02-16 21:07                                                                                                                                               ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-02-19  9:49                                                                                                                                                 ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-02-19 10:19                                                                                                                                                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-02-12  9:57                                                                                                                                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-02-13  5:35                                                                                                                                       ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-02-13 14:43                                                                                                                                         ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-02-19 11:05                                                                                                                                 ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-02-19 12:54                                                                                                                                   ` Andreas Enge
2013-02-19 16:54                                                                                                                                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-02-19 18:20                                                                                                                                       ` Andreas Enge
2013-02-19 18:44                                                                                                                                         ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-02-19 21:26                                                                                                                                         ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-02-20  9:30                                                                                                                                         ` Andreas Enge
2013-02-20 11:40                                                                                                                                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-02-20 16:25                                                                                                                                             ` Andreas Enge
2013-02-20 17:05                                                                                                                                               ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-02-20 17:42                                                                                                                                               ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-02-20 19:24                                                                                                                                                 ` Andreas Enge
2013-02-20 20:03                                                                                                                                                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-02-20 23:38                                                                                                                                                     ` Porting to anything Andreas Enge
2013-02-21  9:36                                                                                                                                                       ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2013-02-21  9:56                                                                                                                                                         ` Andreas Enge
2013-02-21 16:48                                                                                                                                                     ` Porting to mips64el Nikita Karetnikov
2013-02-21 18:44                                                                                                                                                       ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-02-21 21:47                                                                                                                                                         ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-02-23 18:53                                                                                                                                                           ` Andreas Enge
2013-02-23 18:56                                                                                                                                                             ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-03-03 15:01                                                                                                                                                               ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-03-03 21:26                                                                                                                                                                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-01-23 15:33                                                             ` Ludovic Courtès

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