From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Optional runtime dependencies in Guix
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 18:24:58 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d26iegph.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150112184614.GA4935@debian> (Andreas Enge's message of "Mon, 12 Jan 2015 19:47:30 +0100")
Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr> skribis:
> On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 05:26:02PM +0100, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
>> To begin with, we could have a “weechat” package with a “reasonable”
>> option set:
>> (define weechat
>> (make-weechat "weechat"))
>>
>> And possibly another variant with, say, all the options enabled:
>> (define weechat-full
>> (make-weechat "weechat-full" #:python? #t #:lua? #t))
>
> So far, our policy has rather been to enable all possible inputs. I think
> this should be the default with the name "weechat" unaltered. If need be,
> one could add another package with fewer inputs under the name
> "weechat-small" or similar.
>
> What do others think? If there is consensus, we could formalise something
> in the package naming section of the manual.
Actually yes, weechat/weechat-small (rather than weechat-full/weechat)
is a good choice, and it’s what we did for Emacs notably. Sorry for the
confusion.
> Apart from that, I do not see why having several scripting languages enabled
> is a problem; in the end, it is quite likely that they are present anyway due
> to one package or another (it is rather difficult to avoid perl and python
> these days!). So my real preference would be to not have such "...-small"
> packages except for outrageously big default packages (texlive comes to
> mind here...).
Well, pulling Python, Ruby, Lua, and Guile just to get an IRC client
really seems overkill. In general, Guix is not about space-efficiency,
but we still want to make it easy to avoid adding extra weight when it’s
clearly unnecessary.
>> A long term possibility would be to officially support something like
>> Gentoo’s “USE” flags. These would be declared as part of the package,
>> and the build process would take them into account somehow:
>
> To me, this sounds like overkill to solve a problem that I am not
> convinced exists.
Well, less code is better, and it could be that the full/small package
variants are enough in many cases. We’ll see.
Ludo’.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-01-13 17:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-11-23 3:43 Optional runtime dependencies in Guix Gammel Holte
2014-11-23 20:47 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-01-11 15:38 ` Gammel Holte
2015-01-12 9:38 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-01-12 11:23 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2015-01-12 16:03 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-01-12 13:11 ` 宋文武
2015-01-12 16:26 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-01-12 18:47 ` Andreas Enge
2015-01-12 19:18 ` Gammel Holte
2015-01-13 17:28 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-01-13 17:24 ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
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