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From: Christopher Allan Webber <cwebber@dustycloud.org>
To: "Thompson, David" <dthompson2@worcester.edu>
Cc: guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add and use sqlite-legacy-for-python
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2016 18:40:23 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d1ryu26m.fsf@dustycloud.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87egch8lg9.fsf@dustycloud.org>

Christopher Allan Webber writes:

> Thompson, David writes:
>
>> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 7:13 PM, Christopher Allan Webber
>> <cwebber@dustycloud.org> wrote:
>>> Ludovic Courtès writes:
>>>
>>>> Pjotr Prins <pjotr.public12@thebird.nl> skribis:
>>>>
>>>>> Patch b24765139c8940541b23f84592d3580d53f71d71
>>>>>
>>>>>  (define-public sqlite
>>>>>    (package
>>>>>     (name "sqlite")
>>>>> -   (version "3.8.11.1")
>>>>> +   (version "3.10.0")
>>>>>     (source (origin
>>>>>
>>>>> is the cause of python(2|3)-sqlalchemy breaking. I confirmed that by
>>>>> regressing to the original sqlite package. Since the python binding is
>>>>> part of the interpreter, I suspect there may be more python modules
>>>>> vulnerable. I updated python-sqlalchemy to latest and that makes no
>>>>> difference. Its tests fail on sqlite 3.10.0 and pass on 3.8.11.1.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do we do? Revert on this sqlite patch for the new guix release?
>>>>> Or add a second sqlite package and have that as a python dependency?
>>>>
>>>> I would do the latter, assuming that soon a new python-sqlalchemy
>>>> release would solve the problem.  WDYT?
>>>>
>>>> This is probably OK since python-sqlalchemy is a leaf, and so we’re
>>>> unlikely to end up mixing two different SQLite versions.
>>>>
>>>> Ludo’.
>>>
>>> Will sqlalchemy really remain a leaf node?  I hope not, since I'm
>>> working on packaging MediaGoblin now :)
>>
>> Yeah, sqlalchemy being a leaf node is accidental.  It's a library that
>> will be depended on by MediaGoblin and maybe other software.
>>
>>> Regardless, I agree that the second approach seems to be the right one.
>>> I've built a modified package, sqlite-legacy-for-python, and put it to
>>> use.  I built it and confirmed it builds fine and that the tests pass,
>>> and with it, the tests pass in python-sqlalchemy too.
>>
>> I'm concerned about this.  What exactly is being used here, a client
>> library?  If so, it means that we may have an issue when a python
>> application uses a library that wants to dynamically link against both
>> the normal sqlite library and this older version.  Maybe this is still
>> fine, but proceed with caution.
>>
>> - Dave
>
> I share your concern, and admittedly don't understand myself what the
> implications are here (despite producing a patch, egads!).  It's part of
> the standard library though.  I would *think* that it would stay
> pointing at the very specific version of sqlite.  Nonetheless, it does
> seem unsettling, and unclear to me personally if something unexpected
> could happen.
>
> Maybe some "expert" could weigh in... :)

Mark Weaver suggested that I try with the latest sqlite release (3.10.2)
and see if upgrading would fix the problem.  It did not.

python-alembic is the only Python package I have left to do for handling
all of MediaGoblin's Python dependencies.  I would really appreciate it
if we could find a solution for this.

(I suppose bugs should also be filed upstream.  I can do that tomorrow,
I hope.)

 - Chris

  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-15  2:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-08 16:46 sqlite update causes failure of python-sqlalchemy Pjotr Prins
2016-02-09 21:15 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-02-13  0:13   ` [PATCH] Add and use sqlite-legacy-for-python Christopher Allan Webber
2016-02-13  0:23     ` Thompson, David
2016-02-13  1:09       ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-02-15  2:40         ` Christopher Allan Webber [this message]
2016-02-15 19:38           ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-02-15 20:13             ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-02-15 21:03               ` Pjotr Prins
2016-02-21 21:11               ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-02-13  7:59     ` Andreas Enge

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