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Subject: Re: guix environment guix doesn't provide guix dependencies?
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"Thompson, David" <dthompson2@worcester.edu> skribis:

> On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 5:20 PM, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s <ludo@gnu.org> wrot=
e:
>> Hi Chris,
>>
>> Chris Marusich <cmmarusich@gmail.com> skribis:
>>
>>> John Darrington <john@darrington.wattle.id.au> writes:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>>> I don't think so.   Running ./bootstrap is not part of the normal proc=
ess for *building*
>>>> guix - only for bootstrapping.  But you are right - it is common to wa=
nt to do that.
>>>> For this reason I often run:
>>>>
>>>>  guix environment guix --ad-hoc automake autoconf texinfo help2man
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But perhaps you are right - the manual might want to mention this.
>>>>
>>>> J'
>>>
>>> That makes sense.  I feel like it used to provide all the dependencies,
>>> including autoconf etc., but that was months ago, and I might be
>>> mis-remembering.  It works fine when I add the needed bootstrap
>>> dependencies with --ad-hoc.
>>
>> In fact there=E2=80=99s a small time window during which =E2=80=9Cguix e=
nvironment guix=E2=80=9D
>> doesn=E2=80=99t provide autoconf et al.: it=E2=80=99s when the =E2=80=98=
guix=E2=80=99 variable in (gnu
>> packages package-management) refers to a released tarball instead of a
>> Git checkout, since a build from tarball doesn=E2=80=99t depend on autoc=
onf et
>> al.
>>
>> So if you run =E2=80=9Cguix environment guix=E2=80=9D on a commit differ=
ent from
>> v0.11.0 + 1, you effectively get all the dependencies.
>>
>> I admit this is a bit confusing.  Not sure how to document/improve that.
>>
>> Ideas?
>
> How about a public guix-devel package that always builds from the Git rep=
o?

Good idea.  I guess it could essentially be an alias for the current
=E2=80=98guix-devel=E2=80=99.  Could you look into it and update the docs a=
ccordingly?

Thanks!  :-)

Ludo=E2=80=99.