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From: Dave Love <fx@gnu.org>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludovic.courtes@inria.fr>
Cc: 27905@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: [bug#27905] changes for openmpi
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2017 12:06:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d17aznix.fsf@albion.it.manchester.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h8x1t0op.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic \=\?iso-8859-1\?Q\?Court\=E8s\?\= \=\?iso-8859-1\?Q\?\=22's\?\= message of "Mon, 21 Aug 2017 17:12:06 +0200")

Ludovic Courtès <ludovic.courtes@inria.fr> writes:

>> * mpi.scm (hwloc)[outputs]: Replace lib with nogui.
>> (hwloc)[arguments]: Change configure --prefix; use "nogui" output,
>> not "lib"; populate "all" output.
>> (openmpi)[inputs]: Use hwloc-nogui.
>
> The downside of this is that the “nogui” output is less discoverable
> (and it’s another user-visible breakage.)

I don't understand why it's worse than currently.  "hwloc" will provide
the same as before, won't it?  I guess developer breakage could be fixed
by retaining the lib output if it matters.

Maybe it's helpful to try to document what sort of stability is expected
currently?

> Also, it shouldn’t make any difference to the closure size of openmpi
> anyway, no?

Right.  It wasn't for openmpi specifically.

>> +         (add-after 'install 'install-openmpi
>> +           (lambda* (#:key outputs #:allow-other-keys)
>> +             (let ((dest (format #f "~a/lib/valgrind"
>> +                                 (assoc-ref outputs "openmpi"))))
>> +               (mkdir-p dest)
>> +               (zero?
>> +                (system (format #f "mv ~a/lib/valgrind/libmpiwrap* ~a"
>> +                                (assoc-ref outputs "out") dest)))))))))
>
> Why move it to a separate output?  After all, we can keep it in “out”
> since all it costs is the size of libmpiwrap.so, right?
>
> Also, I assume that this is functionally equivalent to Open MPI’s
> built-in Valgrind support, is it?

This is probably moot.  It isn't entirely equivalent but, more
importantly, the builtin support apparently doesn't have the performance
hit which was documented; I haven't checked experimentally.  See this
thread, though not all my questions were answered:
<https://www.mail-archive.com/users@lists.open-mpi.org//msg31459.html>.

The wrapper library may still be relevant for mpich-y MPIs, if they get
used -- I don't know.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-09-01 11:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-01 12:54 [bug#27905] changes for openmpi Dave Love
2017-08-21 15:12 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-08-23 13:00   ` Dave Love
2017-08-31  7:58     ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-09-01 11:24       ` Dave Love
2017-09-01 11:06   ` Dave Love [this message]
2017-09-04 15:10     ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-09-07 16:14       ` Dave Love
2017-09-11 20:24         ` Dave Love
2017-09-12  7:00           ` bug#27905: " Ludovic Courtès

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