From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Mark H Weaver Subject: Re: Packaging a free Firefox Date: Mon, 07 May 2018 20:06:18 -0400 Message-ID: <87d0y7f1tx.fsf@netris.org> References: <87y3h1g42q.fsf@lassieur.org> <87tvrlhi58.fsf@hyperbola.info> <878t8xo9t9.fsf@gnu.org> <87vac0khg0.fsf@gnu.org> <948c3377-b905-7d6d-d7f5-0e8e61bcdb06@crazy-compilers.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43185) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fFqAC-0002uM-5q for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 May 2018 20:07:29 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fFqA7-0004rG-Sr for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 May 2018 20:07:28 -0400 In-Reply-To: <948c3377-b905-7d6d-d7f5-0e8e61bcdb06@crazy-compilers.com> (Hartmut Goebel's message of "Sun, 6 May 2018 18:33:56 +0200") List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Hartmut Goebel Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Hartmut Goebel writes: > Am 06.05.2018 um 16:05 schrieb Mike Gerwitz: >> In the case of their addon >> system, they encourage installation of non-free addons, which is against >> the Free Software Distribution Guidelines (FSDG), and is the same reason >> that Debian isn't a recommended free software distribution. >> > My aim is to empower people, not to infantilize them. > > If we disable adding add-on, we appoint ourselves as guardian for > immature users. And this IMHO is contrary to "free" (as in "free speech"). To be clear, our IceCat package allows you to install any compatible addon, regardless of its license. You are free to navigate to addons.mozilla.org and install whatever you wish. It's quite easy. However, IceCat is modified to not direct users to that site by default. That's part of our commitment as a project to not steer users toward nonfree software. I think it's rather absurd to suggest that we are somehow violating your freedom by making a commitment as a project to exclude software that doesn't meet our standards. You can do what you want with your own computer. Guix makes it unusually easy to add your own packages, or modify our existing packages, while still receiving updates from us. Can you explain more clearly how we are infringing on your freedom? Mark