* [emacs]: snapshots against latest versions
@ 2023-09-12 7:55 Cayetano Santos
2023-09-13 17:13 ` Munyoki Kilyungi
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From: Cayetano Santos @ 2023-09-12 7:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Guix Devel
Hi Guix,
Following a recent patch to an snapshot of an emacs package
(emacs-mastodon), where latest stable (tagged) release dates back from
a long time, the question of whether to send patches for non stable
(tagged) versions is pertinent or not.
Of course, the answer is clear: we only package stable. Guix manual
(22.4.3 Version Numbers) clearly states that "We usually package only
the latest version of a given free software project ... Occasionally,
we package snapshots of upstream’s version control system (VCS)
instead of formal releases. This should remain exceptional.". Fine
with that.
Now, regarding emacs-xyz packages, the situation is a bit ambiguous.
We have (old?) (tagged) releases, as well as snapshots. What is the
rule to follow when we contribute ? At what point in time do we
consider we may submit patches for snapshots ? With which frequency ?
Do we consider number or relevance of commits since latest version ?
Do we base our decision on time elapsed ? Simply put, as for now, we
have a mix of melpa-stable and melpa: when one may decide to forget
stable and move forward to latest ? Of course, this is author’s role,
but I’m wondering how subjective all of this is, and how this might
impact quality of provided packages.
Best,
Cayetano
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* Re: [emacs]: snapshots against latest versions
2023-09-12 7:55 [emacs]: snapshots against latest versions Cayetano Santos
@ 2023-09-13 17:13 ` Munyoki Kilyungi
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From: Munyoki Kilyungi @ 2023-09-13 17:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: csantosb, Guix Devel
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Hi Cayetano! Allow me to chime in, although I'm
green.
Cayetano Santos <csantosb@inventati.org>
aliandika:
> Hi Guix,
>
> Following a recent patch to an snapshot of an emacs package
> (emacs-mastodon), where latest stable (tagged) release dates back from
> a long time, the question of whether to send patches for non stable
> (tagged) versions is pertinent or not.
>
> Of course, the answer is clear: we only package stable. Guix manual
> (22.4.3 Version Numbers) clearly states that "We usually package only
> the latest version of a given free software project ... Occasionally,
> we package snapshots of upstream’s version control system (VCS)
> instead of formal releases. This should remain exceptional.". Fine
> with that.
>
From my experience, this depends. In the python
system, updating some things can have ripple
effects that propagate to other packages, and
sometimes in a not so nice way. For packages that
have ripple effects, I find useful to package to
the latest version upto where things are stable.
Also, sometimes, a recent change can introduce a
security bug, so in such a case, unless a patch is
provided, I see no need to be in the latest
version.
[...]
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but will leave the beautiful writing of life.)
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