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From: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
To: 66306@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#66306: Too many services depend on ‘networking’
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2023 14:24:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87cyxxjjou.fsf@inria.fr> (raw)

I believe too many services depend on ‘networking’ for no good reason.
There’s a good discussion of the problem at:

  https://systemd.io/NETWORK_ONLINE/

For example, bitlbee, ntpd, hurd-vm, and avahi-daemon all depend on
‘networking’.

Is it always justified?  For example, avahi-daemon unconditionally
listens on 0.0.0.0 and [::], so there’s no need to depend on
‘networking’.

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
$ sudo netstat -tupla |grep avahi
udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:mdns            0.0.0.0:*                           650/avahi-daemon: r 
udp6       0      0 [::]:mdns               [::]:*                              650/avahi-daemon: r 
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

In other cases, such as bitlbee, it’s not as obvious because users can
specify different addresses to listen to, and those might depend on
‘networking’ to set up the corresponding interfaces.

Thoughts?  Should we do an audit of these?

Ludo’.




             reply	other threads:[~2023-10-02 12:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 2+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-02 12:24 Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2023-10-05  7:12 ` bug#66306: Too many services depend on ‘networking’ Efraim Flashner

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