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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Scanner: mx11.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.41 X-Spam-Score: -1.41 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 54D037F188 X-TUID: EIDw0FeLzMQ2 Ekaitz Zarraga writes: > Let's remember the FSF still pays most of our bills. I think clarification is required here: the Guix project receives donations, including a single very large donation. Most of these donations were received because of Guix's participation in an FSF program (an agreement for the FSF to handle donations and to send annual fundraiser emails drafted by us, in exchange for a cut), so the FSF currently holds these funds for us. When we want to use these funds we send them invoices and get reimbursed --- this is our money, not theirs. The statement "the FSF pays our bills" could be understood as the FSF actively sponsoring the project. This is not true. The only direct sponsorship from the FSF is in the form of hosting Savannah, debbugs, and the mailing list. -- Ricardo