From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Subject: Re: Adding rottlog service in =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=98%base-services?= =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=99=3F?= Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 23:02:11 +0200 Message-ID: <87bmy9zcj0.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87wphcpsfu.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2dc3arp.fsf@we.make.ritual.n0.is> <87pomw7541.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59103) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bymNv-0007kt-Ng for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Oct 2016 17:02:20 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bymNq-0006c1-Nk for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Oct 2016 17:02:19 -0400 In-Reply-To: (David Craven's message of "Sat, 22 Oct 2016 07:52:58 +0200") List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: David Craven Cc: guix-devel David Craven skribis: >> Not sure I understand the problem. =E2=80=98mcron-jobs=E2=80=99 wouldn= =E2=80=99t collide with >> anything else AFAICS, and it would be clearer than just =E2=80=98jobs=E2= =80=99 no? > > What I mean is that mcron-jobs assumes that the mcron-service is used. > Calling it something general like jobs or cron-jobs wouldn't require > renaming, if someone wants to use a different cron implementation. For > example in an embedded system someone might prefer to use the > busybox/toybox cron implementation. I'm not sure what other job time > scheduling solutions exist. But a job is something that needs to run > at specific times and has a bounded run time. I don't know how cron > specific this feature is, or if the name of the job scheduler it's > relevant as part of an operating-system declaration. Oh, I see. The mcron jobs that we define in GuixSD directly use mcron=E2= =80=99s Scheme API; IOW, we don=E2=80=99t provide any abstraction over what mcron provides. Thus it would be really hard to retarget such job specs to tools other than mcron. For this reason I think we should keep the =E2=80=98mcron-=E2=80=99 prefix = here. Does it make sense? (The situation is comparable to that of Shepherd services.) Ludo=E2=80=99.