From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Mark H Weaver Subject: Re: NetworkManager instead of Wicd in =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=98%desktop?= =?utf-8?Q?-services=E2=80=99=3F?= Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2017 05:49:10 -0400 Message-ID: <87bmmt4ei1.fsf@netris.org> References: <87iniaf06l.fsf@gnu.org> <8760e95qxu.fsf@openmailbox.org> <87mv6iz1b4.fsf@igalia.com> <8737894bhf.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59114) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1do53U-0001GT-Kw for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Sep 2017 05:49:37 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1do53P-0006u2-Sk for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Sep 2017 05:49:32 -0400 In-Reply-To: <8737894bhf.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic \=\?utf-8\?Q\?Court\=C3\=A8s\=22'\?\= \=\?utf-8\?Q\?s\?\= message of "Wed, 30 Aug 2017 12:05:16 +0200") List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Cc: guix-devel , Kei Kebreau ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s) writes: > Andy Wingo skribis: > >> It seems like all GNOME users are ready for this change. I tried it out >> locally and it's quite nice. Patch like this: >> >> diff --git a/gnu/services/desktop.scm b/gnu/services/desktop.scm >> index 0509bd8a4..f12fe78e5 100644 >> --- a/gnu/services/desktop.scm >> +++ b/gnu/services/desktop.scm >> @@ -810,7 +810,8 @@ with the administrator's password." >>=20=20=20=20=20=20 >> ;; The D-Bus clique. >> (avahi-service) >> - (wicd-service) >> + (service network-manager-service-type) >> + (service wpa-supplicant-service-type) >> (udisks-service) >> (upower-service) >> (accountsservice-service) > > For GNOME it=E2=80=99s definitely better than Wicd. > >> The network manager command also seems to include `nmtui' for a >> curses-based interface, and `nmcli' for a command-line interface. I >> don't know if there's an applet or something like that, but of course >> that could be installed as part of the xfce-desktop-service package. There's a 'network-manager-applet' package, already in Guix. I've used it with Xfce in the past, and it seemed to work well. >> Seems to me like network manager could be a good default for Guix >> desktop systems. Agreed. > I went as far as switching to NM on my GNOME-less laptop. ;-) nmtui > works well for me, and overall NM works better than Wicd (it reconnects > more reliably and more quickly to wireless networks AFAICS.) > > A GTK+ interface to NM similar to that of Wicd (i.e., not the GNOME > applet) would also be welcome; does anyone know of such a thing? > > Overall, NM seems to work better than Wicd, whether or not one uses > GNOME. Even if the issue Chris Marusich mentioned still applies, I > think switching to NM in =E2=80=98%desktop-services=E2=80=99 would be a n= et win. I think we should do this. Mark