Starting Sway a Wayland window manager

Starting Sway a Wayland window manager

[Bone Baboon]

I have installed Sway a Wayland window manager.

I have copied the `gnu/store/<hash>-sway-1.5.1/etc/sway/config` to
`~/.sway/config`.

When I run `sway` or `sudo sway` on virtual terminal 1 it outputs
"XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is not set in the environment. Aborting.".  `man sway`
and `sway --help` does not mention `XDG_RUNTIME_DIR`.  An suggestions on
how to deal with this error?

Re: Starting Sway a Wayland window manager

[jbranso]

March 27, 2021 8:44 PM, "Bone Baboon" <bone.baboon@disroot.org> wrote:

> I have installed Sway a Wayland window manager.
> 
> I have copied the `gnu/store/<hash>-sway-1.5.1/etc/sway/config` to
> `~/.sway/config`.
> 
> When I run `sway` or `sudo sway` on virtual terminal 1 it outputs
> "XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is not set in the environment. Aborting.". `man sway`
> and `sway --help` does not mention `XDG_RUNTIME_DIR`. An suggestions on
> how to deal with this error?

I run sway on my T400.  I think I manually set XDG_RUNTIME_DIR in my 
~/.bash_profile.  Let me check how I do it...I don't have access to my
T400 at the moment.  I'm just responding now, to remind myself to help
you out later. :)

Re: Starting Sway a Wayland window manager

[Vagrant Cascadian]

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On 2021-03-27, Bone Baboon wrote:
> I have installed Sway a Wayland window manager.
>
> I have copied the `gnu/store/<hash>-sway-1.5.1/etc/sway/config` to
> `~/.sway/config`.
>
> When I run `sway` or `sudo sway` on virtual terminal 1 it outputs
> "XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is not set in the environment. Aborting.".  `man sway`
> and `sway --help` does not mention `XDG_RUNTIME_DIR`.  An suggestions on
> how to deal with this error?

Is the elogind service running? I *think* that is what I needed to get
sway working from the console...


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  vagrant

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Re: Starting Sway a Wayland window manager

[Joshua Branson]

Vagrant Cascadian <vagrant@debian.org> writes:

> On 2021-03-27, Bone Baboon wrote:
>> I have installed Sway a Wayland window manager.
>>
>> I have copied the `gnu/store/<hash>-sway-1.5.1/etc/sway/config` to
>> `~/.sway/config`.
>>
>> When I run `sway` or `sudo sway` on virtual terminal 1 it outputs
>> "XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is not set in the environment. Aborting.".  `man sway`
>> and `sway --help` does not mention `XDG_RUNTIME_DIR`.  An suggestions on
>> how to deal with this error?
>
> Is the elogind service running? I *think* that is what I needed to get
> sway working from the console...

That seems to be the trick.

My .bash_profile is here:

#+BEGIN_SRC sh
# Honor per-interactive-shell startup file
if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then . ~/.bashrc; fi

# shepherd

if [[ -z $DISPLAY ]] && [[ $(tty) = /dev/tty1 ]]; then
    export MOZ_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1
    export GUIX_PACKAGE_PATH=/home/joshua/prog/gnu/guix/guix-packages/
    XDG_DATA_DIRS=/var/lib/flatpak/exports/share:/home/joshua/.local/share/flatpak/exports/share:$XDG_DATA_DIRS
    # this may fix a bug that I have with termite confusing backspace as space in guix environment
    # export TERM=linux
    shepherd -c /home/joshua/.config/shepherd/init.scm &
    exec dbus-run-session sway
fi
#+END_SRC

>
> live well,
>   vagrant
>

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Re: Starting Sway a Wayland window manager

[Joshua Branson]

Joshua Branson <jbranso@dismail.de> writes:

I also just realized that sway started for me when I changed
%base-services to %desktop-services.

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Re: Starting Sway a Wayland window manager

[Bone Baboon]

Vagrant Cascadian writes:

> Is the elogind service running? I *think* that is what I needed to get
> sway working from the console...

I have added the `elogind` service.  Here is the services section of my
systems configuration:

```
 (services
  (append
   (list
    (service elogind-service-type)
    (service accountsservice-service-type)
    (service inputattach-service-type)
    x11-socket-directory-service
    polkit-wheel-service)
   %base-services))
```

When I run `sudo herd status` the output shows that `elogind` is
started.

When I run `sway` on virtual terminal 1 sway does not start and I get
this output: 

```
localhost dbus-daemon[380]: [system] Rejected send message, 2 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.24" (uid=1000 pid=26112 comm="sway ") interface="org.freedesktop.login1.Session" member="SetType" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination="org.freedesktop.login1" (uid=0 pid=381 comm="/gnu/store/jdk3r1gs4d36n3aj9fscsvwwc9prnrzp-elogin")
[backend/backend.c:303] Failed to open any DRM device
[sway/server.c:49] Unable to create backend
```

When I run `sudo sway` it outputs "XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is not set in the
environment. Aborting.".

Re: Starting Sway a Wayland window manager

[Bone Baboon]

Joshua Branson writes:
> My .bash_profile is here:
>
> #+BEGIN_SRC sh
> # Honor per-interactive-shell startup file
> if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then . ~/.bashrc; fi
>
> # shepherd
>
> if [[ -z $DISPLAY ]] && [[ $(tty) = /dev/tty1 ]]; then
>     export MOZ_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1
>     export GUIX_PACKAGE_PATH=/home/joshua/prog/gnu/guix/guix-packages/
>     XDG_DATA_DIRS=/var/lib/flatpak/exports/share:/home/joshua/.local/share/flatpak/exports/share:$XDG_DATA_DIRS
>     # this may fix a bug that I have with termite confusing backspace as space in guix environment
>     # export TERM=linux
>     shepherd -c /home/joshua/.config/shepherd/init.scm &
>     exec dbus-run-session sway
> fi
> #+END_SRC

What package includes `dbus-run-session`?  I do not have it installed on
my system?

Re: Starting Sway a Wayland window manager

[Joshua Branson]

Bone Baboon <bone.baboon@disroot.org> writes:

> Vagrant Cascadian writes:
>
>> Is the elogind service running? I *think* that is what I needed to get
>> sway working from the console...
>
> I have added the `elogind` service.  Here is the services section of my
> systems configuration:
>
> ```
>  (services
>   (append
>    (list
>     (service elogind-service-type)
>     (service accountsservice-service-type)
>     (service inputattach-service-type)
>     x11-socket-directory-service
>     polkit-wheel-service)
>    %base-services))
> ```

Change %base-services to %desktop-services.  That will probably fix it
for you.

>
> When I run `sudo herd status` the output shows that `elogind` is
> started.
>
> When I run `sway` on virtual terminal 1 sway does not start and I get
> this output: 
>
> ```
> localhost dbus-daemon[380]: [system] Rejected send message, 2 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.24" (uid=1000 pid=26112 comm="sway ") interface="org.freedesktop.login1.Session" member="SetType" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination="org.freedesktop.login1" (uid=0 pid=381 comm="/gnu/store/jdk3r1gs4d36n3aj9fscsvwwc9prnrzp-elogin")
> [backend/backend.c:303] Failed to open any DRM device
> [sway/server.c:49] Unable to create backend
> ```
>
> When I run `sudo sway` it outputs "XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is not set in the
> environment. Aborting.".
>

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Re: Starting Sway a Wayland window manager

[Joshua Branson]

Bone Baboon <bone.baboon@disroot.org> writes:

> Joshua Branson writes:
>> My .bash_profile is here:
>>
>> #+BEGIN_SRC sh
>> # Honor per-interactive-shell startup file
>> if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then . ~/.bashrc; fi
>>
>> # shepherd
>>
>> if [[ -z $DISPLAY ]] && [[ $(tty) = /dev/tty1 ]]; then
>>     export MOZ_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1
>>     export GUIX_PACKAGE_PATH=/home/joshua/prog/gnu/guix/guix-packages/
>>     XDG_DATA_DIRS=/var/lib/flatpak/exports/share:/home/joshua/.local/share/flatpak/exports/share:$XDG_DATA_DIRS
>>     # this may fix a bug that I have with termite confusing backspace as space in guix environment
>>     # export TERM=linux
>>     shepherd -c /home/joshua/.config/shepherd/init.scm &
>>     exec dbus-run-session sway
>> fi
>> #+END_SRC
>
> What package includes `dbus-run-session`?  I do not have it installed on
> my system?
>

I think it's dbus?  I honestly don't remember...

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Re: Starting Sway a Wayland window manager

[Bone Baboon]

Joshua Branson writes:

>> What package includes `dbus-run-session`?  I do not have it installed on
>> my system?
>
> I think it's dbus?  I honestly don't remember...

The `dbus` package does provide `dbus-run-session`.

When I run `dbus-run-session sway` on virtual terminal 1 sway does not
start and I get this output:

```
localhost dbus-daemon[380]: [system] Rejected send message, 2 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.24" (uid=1000 pid=26112 comm="sway ") interface="org.freedesktop.login1.Session" member="SetType" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination="org.freedesktop.login1" (uid=0 pid=381 comm="/gnu/store/jdk3r1gs4d36n3aj9fscsvwwc9prnrzp-elogin")
[backend/backend.c:303] Failed to open any DRM device
[sway/server.c:49] Unable to create backend
```

When I run `sudo dbus-run-session sway` it outputs "XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is
not set in the environment. Aborting.".

Re: Starting Sway a Wayland window manager

[Bone Baboon]

Joshua Branson writes:

> I also just realized that sway started for me when I changed
> %base-services to %desktop-services.

If I reconfigure the system with `%desktop-services`:

```
 (services %desktop-services)
```

When I run `sway` on virtual terminal 1 sway does not start and I get
this output:

```
localhost dbus-daemon[380]: [system] Rejected send message, 2 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.24" (uid=1000 pid=26112 comm="sway ") interface="org.freedesktop.login1.Session" member="SetType" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination="org.freedesktop.login1" (uid=0 pid=381 comm="/gnu/store/jdk3r1gs4d36n3aj9fscsvwwc9prnrzp-elogin")
[backend/backend.c:303] Failed to open any DRM device
[sway/server.c:49] Unable to create backend
```

When I run `sudo sway` it outputs "XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is not set in the
environment. Aborting.".

Re: Starting Sway a Wayland window manager

[Joshua Branson]

Bone Baboon <bone.baboon@disroot.org> writes:

> Joshua Branson writes:
>
>> I also just realized that sway started for me when I changed
>> %base-services to %desktop-services.
>
> If I reconfigure the system with `%desktop-services`:
>
> ```
>  (services %desktop-services)
> ```
>
> When I run `sway` on virtual terminal 1 sway does not start and I get
> this output:
>
> ```
> localhost dbus-daemon[380]: [system] Rejected send message, 2 matched
> rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.24" (uid=1000 pid=26112
> comm="sway ") interface="org.freedesktop.login1.Session"
> member="SetType" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0"
> destination="org.freedesktop.login1" (uid=0 pid=381
> comm="/gnu/store/jdk3r1gs4d36n3aj9fscsvwwc9prnrzp-elogin")
> [backend/backend.c:303] Failed to open any DRM device
> [sway/server.c:49] Unable to create backend
> ```
>
> When I run `sudo sway` it outputs "XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is not set in the
> environment. Aborting.".


hmmm,  maybe this will help.  Here's my current guix config:

https://notabug.org/jbranso/guix-config/src/master/sway.scm

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Re: Starting Sway a Wayland window manager

[raingloom]

On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 20:43:49 -0400
Bone Baboon <bone.baboon@disroot.org> wrote:

> I have installed Sway a Wayland window manager.
> 
> I have copied the `gnu/store/<hash>-sway-1.5.1/etc/sway/config` to
> `~/.sway/config`.
> 
> When I run `sway` or `sudo sway` on virtual terminal 1 it outputs
> "XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is not set in the environment. Aborting.".  `man
> sway` and `sway --help` does not mention `XDG_RUNTIME_DIR`.  An
> suggestions on how to deal with this error?
> 

Run it with dbus-run-session sway. Do **not** run it as root. Generally
speaking, don't randomly run things as root.

Re: Starting Sway a Wayland window manager

[Vagrant Cascadian]

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On 2021-03-29, Bone Baboon wrote:
> When I run `dbus-run-session sway` on virtual terminal 1 sway does not
> start and I get this output:
>
> ```
> localhost dbus-daemon[380]: [system] Rejected send message, 2 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.24" (uid=1000 pid=26112 comm="sway ") interface="org.freedesktop.login1.Session" member="SetType" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination="org.freedesktop.login1" (uid=0 pid=381 comm="/gnu/store/jdk3r1gs4d36n3aj9fscsvwwc9prnrzp-elogin")

                          vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
> [backend/backend.c:303] Failed to open any DRM device
                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I think this is your fundamental problem. There's no DRM device
available (at least to your user). Are there devices in /dev/dri/, and
are they writeable by your user?


live well,
  vagrant

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Re: Starting Sway a Wayland window manager

[Bone Baboon]

Vagrant Cascadian writes:

> On 2021-03-29, Bone Baboon wrote:
>> When I run `dbus-run-session sway` on virtual terminal 1 sway does not
>> start and I get this output:
>>
>> ```
>> localhost dbus-daemon[380]: [system] Rejected send message, 2 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.24" (uid=1000 pid=26112 comm="sway ") interface="org.freedesktop.login1.Session" member="SetType" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination="org.freedesktop.login1" (uid=0 pid=381 comm="/gnu/store/jdk3r1gs4d36n3aj9fscsvwwc9prnrzp-elogin")
>
>                           vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
>> [backend/backend.c:303] Failed to open any DRM device
>                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> I think this is your fundamental problem. There's no DRM device
> available (at least to your user). Are there devices in /dev/dri/, and
> are they writeable by your user?

What is the significance of the /dev/dri/ devices?
Is /dev/dri/ related to the GPU of a computer?
If there are no /dev/dri devices does that mean that the graphics card
is not compatible with Linux-libre or Guix and that a Wayland window
manager is not going to work?

I am trying to get Sway working on three computers.

Computer 0:
No /dev/dri/ directory.
The sticker on the computer says AMD Radeon Vega Graphics.
neofetch says the GPU is AMD ATI 05:00.0 Picasso.

Computer 1:
No /dev/dri/ directory.
neofetch says the GPU is NVIDEA GeForce FX 5200.

Computer 2:
Has a /dev/dri/ directory with devices that are writable by my user.
noefetch says the GPU is Intel Mobile 4 Series Chipset.

I have not got Sway working on computer 0 or 1.

On computer 2 I am able to start Sway with `sway` on virtual terminal
1.

The relevant parts of the system configuration on computer 2 are:


```
  (packages
    (append
     (list
      sway ;Wayland window manager
      dmenu ;a selection utility that Sway can use to launch programs
      foot) ;a terminal emulator that works with Sway
     %base-packages))

  (services
   (append
    (list
     (service elogind-service-type))
   %base-services))
```

Re: Starting Sway a Wayland window manager

[Vagrant Cascadian]

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On 2021-03-31, Bone Baboon wrote:
> Vagrant Cascadian writes:
>
>> On 2021-03-29, Bone Baboon wrote:
>>> When I run `dbus-run-session sway` on virtual terminal 1 sway does not
>>> start and I get this output:
...
>>                           vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
>>> [backend/backend.c:303] Failed to open any DRM device
>>                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> I think this is your fundamental problem. There's no DRM device
>> available (at least to your user). Are there devices in /dev/dri/, and
>> are they writeable by your user?
>
> What is the significance of the /dev/dri/ devices?
> Is /dev/dri/ related to the GPU of a computer?
> If there are no /dev/dri devices does that mean that the graphics card
> is not compatible with Linux-libre or Guix and that a Wayland window
> manager is not going to work?

Yes, you need /dev/dri for graphics acceleration to work, and wayland
needs at least basic graphics acceleration, as I understand it.

So missing/broken graphics drivers is the issue on two of your machines.


> I am trying to get Sway working on three computers.
>
> Computer 0:
> No /dev/dri/ directory.
> The sticker on the computer says AMD Radeon Vega Graphics.
> neofetch says the GPU is AMD ATI 05:00.0 Picasso.
>
> Computer 1:
> No /dev/dri/ directory.
> neofetch says the GPU is NVIDEA GeForce FX 5200.

Both NVIDIA and AMD have a history of not always having free
drivers/firmware/etc for their graphics hardware.


> Computer 2:
> Has a /dev/dri/ directory with devices that are writable by my user.
> noefetch says the GPU is Intel Mobile 4 Series Chipset.

And in my experience Intel chips usually work without problems...


> I have not got Sway working on computer 0 or 1.
>
> On computer 2 I am able to start Sway with `sway` on virtual terminal
> 1.

That's consistent with my assertion, then, at least. :)


So it sounds like you have sway configured correctly, but some of your
hardware may be incompatible with linux-libre.


live well,
  vagrant

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