From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp2 ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id CAhdOAf5n2B3ewAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 15 May 2021 18:38:31 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp2 with LMTPS id OJX0Mwf5n2DXRAAAB5/wlQ (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 15 May 2021 16:38:31 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B5112A974 for ; Sat, 15 May 2021 18:38:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:48954 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lhxJ6-00057Y-QX for larch@yhetil.org; Sat, 15 May 2021 12:38:29 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38484) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lhxIt-00057M-Sh for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 May 2021 12:38:18 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48498) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lhxIs-0002lb-K5; Sat, 15 May 2021 12:38:14 -0400 Received: from [2a01:e0a:1d:7270:af76:b9b:ca24:c465] (port=52296 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lhxIs-0001DG-0E; Sat, 15 May 2021 12:38:14 -0400 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Christopher Baines Subject: Re: Bringing substitutes from the Guix Build Coordinator to users References: <878s4ye116.fsf@cbaines.net> <87czu6cn63.fsf@cbaines.net> <87h7j71rvb.fsf@cbaines.net> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 26 =?utf-8?Q?Flor=C3=A9al?= an 229 de la =?utf-8?Q?R?= =?utf-8?Q?=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 18:38:12 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87h7j71rvb.fsf@cbaines.net> (Christopher Baines's message of "Wed, 12 May 2021 23:58:48 +0100") Message-ID: <87bl9cj6kr.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." 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That all sounds like a plan! Christopher Baines skribis: > There's a few intertangled things, but the main question is, if bayfront > can be a source of substitutes, what's the path to actually have that > benefit users? One way it=E2=80=99ll benefit everyone is by feeding build/reproducibility = data to the Data Service. Another way can be by advertising bayfront.guix.gnu.org to =E2=80=9Cinsider= s=E2=80=9D (that is, maybe we won=E2=80=99t put it in the manual, but we can suggest t= his option to people reading this list etc.) Thoughts? BTW, we must make sure the load on bayfront itself remains under control because it hosts . Thanks for working on it! Ludo=E2=80=99.