From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id UMdeDDfc4GB3LAEAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 03 Jul 2021 23:52:55 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id 4NPzBzfc4GAFPQAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 03 Jul 2021 21:52:55 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5128619116 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 2021 23:52:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:39188 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lznZF-0001sy-CG for larch@yhetil.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2021 17:52:53 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57700) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lznYt-0001sb-As for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2021 17:52:31 -0400 Received: from tobias.gr ([2a02:c205:2020:6054::1]:58608) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lznYm-00077S-Gy for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2021 17:52:31 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; s=2018; bh=vob+UmLZCiO+P FKjcQMTdoJu5bYYYBDXAe3i7FXPYzo=; h=in-reply-to:date:subject:cc:to: from:references; d=tobias.gr; b=aqgC3DLCief1wB5+Hrv1Um+3INceIc9BxMuK+S eLlyA+xXYXzH3Hwxc+tJFKB2uSv+r7mblOQ7vVUejgFHjURsJxqC76pqPcNfXLYovIeh8/ lIhdaDJp1G/P0br1ZEjFkBtB/oBffDgXiXu0MGk0b0/5Bz13l1R0qXG7xD17sW2VQvB/X5 M2sQz4hjRLAnSMNDGnRSCyHNjv+cziF4CeVenwJsFXA0qPqu+pLHjqGmyUIidNBQFqlyF0 NYMPSMFMgKaEg62xlQCsv9uyPP6iXe5iMo4RYGDFItnPrwuj7Zv9JsDgtvJVLgGmarsfDi /u3Qsa4fddc9hLfKLnMKLlyA== Received: by submission.tobias.gr (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 7329ea1a (TLSv1.3:AEAD-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO); Sat, 3 Jul 2021 21:52:19 +0000 (UTC) References: <87r1gfgpjc.fsf@netris.org> <292def7687859350b6f1cd95a8cd385b70bbe830.camel@telenet.be> <87eecfrw25.fsf@nckx> From: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice To: Domagoj Stolfa Cc: Maxime Devos , Mark H Weaver , guix-devel@gnu.org Subject: Re: Effectively force all GNOME users to locally compile ZFS? 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I'm not a > lawyer nor do I understand much lawyerese, but AIUI, the problem=20 > stems from > the FSF lawyers thinking it wouldn't stand up in court to=20 > distribute CDDL > software linked against GPL'd software as one big binary. Could=20 > someone please > explain why it would not be acceptable to distribute substitutes=20 > of ZFS as a > *standalone kernel module*, rather than as a part of=20 > linux-libre? The question assumes there's such a thing as a *standalone [Linux]=20 kernel module*. This is not a given, and according to all lawyers the FSF has=20 talked to, a fiction. Or so the FSF states in the last paragraph=20 of the =E2=80=98What Constitutes the Entire Work?=E2=80=99 section of=20 . (Sorry for the link! I couldn't resist ;-) My understanding was (and still is) that this is specific to=20 CDDL+GPL only, not CDDL+LGPL, so distributing a dynamically linked=20 libvirt with ZFS support is allowed. 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