From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id UEqSLdA3HWFVPAAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2021 18:39:44 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id 8PM9KdA3HWE6JgAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2021 16:39:44 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C4DA19DD for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2021 18:39:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:40502 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mGObP-0000eg-9k for larch@yhetil.org; Wed, 18 Aug 2021 12:39:43 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38028) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mGObE-0000eM-B9 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Aug 2021 12:39:32 -0400 Received: from mira.cbaines.net ([2a01:7e00:e000:2f8:fd4d:b5c7:13fb:3d27]:41079) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mGObC-0002Ia-DV for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Aug 2021 12:39:32 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [IPv6:2a02:8010:68c1:0:8ac0:b4c7:f5c8:7caa]) by mira.cbaines.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 973AD27BC6B; Wed, 18 Aug 2021 17:39:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from capella (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id acc08382; Wed, 18 Aug 2021 16:39:27 +0000 (UTC) References: <87eeargf1q.fsf@cbaines.net> <87y28yu46w.fsf@ponder> User-agent: mu4e 1.4.15; emacs 27.2 From: Christopher Baines To: Vagrant Cascadian Subject: Re: Update on bordeaux.guix.gnu.org In-reply-to: <87y28yu46w.fsf@ponder> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2021 17:39:25 +0100 Message-ID: <87bl5uhflu.fsf@cbaines.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:7e00:e000:2f8:fd4d:b5c7:13fb:3d27; envelope-from=mail@cbaines.net; helo=mira.cbaines.net X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1629304784; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=bCV+OEekwVpTOyZuwCNcfgLK6TH16XV5eQLlDUUSnN0=; b=sIFqLPWQAfPuCdtr0/dr6NceEUa3vnxulAV+zx9s1XIStYcVa/t/AU9/9l4lEgWFZlAmSf ZrO/cM5Y9LNIqrnzF3Ow5SxOEpCVPYHw2LC6Ebt/WT+IWxsXcqNWUg7fqz4r5CmLvBgkOl Q0VAWBij0tpyi0HJgtJbjqxdKo4G/e7TA5MHpXqDQVW5MKzFYvi9LgzZoC5slmJ1oevvKT /n5bSKBgCasKFAxIvWWFPVFqcijK2J81PLlWIS7oMBluPzMQCPCOIChV6iNOBbMNTxh5Me 9neCdbzF+3c/KP5kcJLBwLl49UrNiVWqb1J494ERLpL8QGU03I6ZAo5cDlE2Ng== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1629304784; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=gWP1UQdY4K2XKcO/b53jgoi7bFxt1ejwFYx0aX7ggeG2ECsxbApikSGegkMmS6v+/ZH0mR l+GGV8rCbItTamBbpVzDMrfkxVXATepoFWyihGt4KMprCbuewffszucKr1YmWXq7edQ3RW 4yZYXjFudJbGbiWFJTu611ElmbVfZ9dGcmgSkquZrs08GqyXtMrwNQopAZJOXKK4Cf/14s 7J2SwfF7nC+KACn9+JJdKXRbsP1Uj+hufsT1VMwGm4zMiMo5fgHB93Lesnh4jL9RFyqIpB edrSTSIL/GmWQTZ5PvARKi2avLOWj9pRMLS3re7gLEMYen5kr8nQJb11ESYm7A== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.02 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 3C4DA19DD X-Spam-Score: -3.02 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: z0CXrEYm9RYq --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Vagrant Cascadian writes: > On 2021-08-18, Christopher Baines wrote: >> Around 2 months ago, bordeaux.guix.gnu.org came in to existence [1][2]. >> >> 1: https://guix.gnu.org/en/blog/2021/substitutes-now-also-available-from-bordeauxguixgnuorg/ >> 2: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2021-06/msg00044.html >> >> This took work I'd done on providing substitutes back in 2020 and >> attempted to bring benefits from that to normal users of Guix. >> >> Unfortunately, I don't really know if this has been much of a >> success. > > I can definitely speak from experience the likelihood of actually > getting substitutes for any aarch64 linux-libre* packages has gone from > "rarely" to "usually", so it has definitely been a huge improvement for > aarch64, where building locally on most aarch64 hardware is very slow. That's good to hear. Unfortunately I only got around to enabling armhf-linux builds last week, but now there should be good substitute availability for armhf-linux as well. > Does it have faster build machines? Does it keep retrying until it > succeeds? Building linux-libre* packages for ci.guix.gnu.org usually > timeout when building the source due to long periods with no output... Currently for arm builds, there's a Overdrive machine (monokuma) and a Honeycomb machine. I would guess that the Honeycomb machine is faster, but I haven't really compared the performance. I do have the guix-daemon timeouts set to pretty high values (max silent time of 12 hours, timeout of 24 hours) which is probably necessary for the linux-libre* packages. There's also automatic retries, a failed build will be retried twice. That's more relevant for things that sometimes fail to build though, or fail to build on particular hardware, rather than timeouts. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKlBAEBCgCPFiEEPonu50WOcg2XVOCyXiijOwuE9XcFAmEdN71fFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDNF ODlFRUU3NDU4RTcyMEQ5NzU0RTBCMjVFMjhBMzNCMEI4NEY1NzcRHG1haWxAY2Jh aW5lcy5uZXQACgkQXiijOwuE9XeYGBAAuBdeesTgaMB9jJSJii/F/RiEj2SJ60km O+7FsufbYQljePfDM9XzJ5eDsLG6IEEspZ68mpH8UQ62ERZ1al8HImHD4PiLSarm ZqXwGy50aAoRDqDug+W43FAzl/CWq8h237OpRbwg31OmpI00Pq5I1HzAkYBqX89f VJYhlVd0gzidlNI8s8joEmqYShRg6rT8UYI+5oITyYlBNZYs961oX+6Kezn2Sbhd pFBov57Tujdh0ihP8GAAmFVHKLPm5v9nZmbzQ/Q960UncqOHzQtuxczXCeOfn7cI aRH2P2LYN9G6d5RScjkqwP0WWM61ieTL12/JLdJT3wWcHivy2xHWI2JmZrrdzz/9 JlRaHKmolyrvn5TiN+iq28V9gy6cuK4bDTcnPGgHJgoXUlx+HKxfuWnS2xV0VZL9 NUXH4JdbJsZ+y5+WcO1prjRgrrVV+juxuLUAwMSeXv8pJ+DNo0toaIc/Jd2cM4iT 5ZkWaTQMvG3/YLWanQICamxTLQg4qPEl2faDunWr+Gd4mkmO7yi1zu+HUI2m46fm umnDxBk6yIRgTmrgoqj3fRsleel/vgUzqT2o6vWTyw61sUKhmJubzBtzfmYfG3Cl s5qN6zPTWIMD1gu6lqUnx/b8kd3zX8b/w7xOXNij0uIgJ9zHJEyXXtrOeMoeiQ9e tBP2NaHHuqM= =pqub -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--