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[72.10.149.53]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v16-20020a05622a145000b00304f55e56e4sm2967257qtx.40.2022.06.16.14.29.52 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 16 Jun 2022 14:29:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Maxim Cournoyer References: <20220515044629.6843-1-maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com> <20220515044629.6843-81-maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com> <18da4f053901c49dbaf80f8afc5edb8234d20d5d.camel@gmail.com> <87y1xwbkjh.fsf@gmail.com> <0441bfdec832867cb73469fb1cfdf4bcddfe95fd.camel@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2022 17:29:51 -0400 In-Reply-To: <0441bfdec832867cb73469fb1cfdf4bcddfe95fd.camel@gmail.com> (Liliana Marie Prikler's message of "Thu, 16 Jun 2022 20:51:07 +0200") Message-ID: <87bkusb8kw.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: guix-patches@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-patches" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1655415107; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding:resent-cc: resent-from:resent-sender:resent-message-id:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=GlocstdG5CClcZGBGMJtiiF889DkLwC1owrQFCUrZFE=; b=mJDj1NDq974UjvldIKaK509Il/CMsHcjJpBWqQ2/Ifu1nH3Uatq6x38osILH+71fvBpIag 5dMOkT4FsSqohZY7fYIWFTi7hGRVexjuV9O0y6GwWExn8P8yyOHzCCIjkM165jkN4RTiWm XAy/jOAJlO3f40DXEo0VTPjZ3/vjeUSDfa54RPUv41sok3XXg6yAc7XabfEZO3Kgphf0/d awRakI8r2MnSlTUhhYw0hG76i9j8w/igPor4kFkacwFulbqfuH4/CNHuB7t4cIRKoz6iuq vSyiAHbLf3NHPtynzjoSZSstgxC9al8QYKibIPJKQOnscMvGlHSQOW4ESU1zkg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1655415107; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=TBVAC6IBYYRd/DoECpCV4wlmayu9NsQBJTPRXyNLl5T/DTIBILNoM4tSq2TS2d5wx2Scrt 1HQaAa2OYztzZ1+MvP0G5zab2COUxJV82hDQqG+6KOm6ANotPA3b42bIgvpsz7WpF2HS0d Fi/5qArZ+Qt5lRZsD+6sgdms/XEsMYev4gIFbMiQ809z6Iya8ja1eJISFphbkOsABY1blD 2drC+r4Pmmit1cAc4SpanyEIR5Jc2ahmlcKM8nCu+DWa+PSYBCU+V467H+PtadJ9j/pF6O Qlan7DyM4BIU0cUt9N/p0lNIorHBmdCpjdaxLV9OWDCHloKH5+QgOWAgbOLUPw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=LlrLPInl; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 5.21 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=LlrLPInl; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 897A43714E X-Spam-Score: 5.21 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: nsAjFb6ddvmP Hello, Liliana Marie Prikler writes: > Am Donnerstag, dem 16.06.2022 um 13:11 -0400 schrieb Maxim Cournoyer: >> Hi Liliana, >>=20 >> Liliana Marie Prikler writes: >>=20 >>=20 >> [...] >>=20 >> > According to upstream, only renpy 8.0 will run on python 3, whereas >> > renpy 7.5 (both still prereleases) will continue to use python 2.7. >> >=20 >> > I suggest "temporarily" reverting the following commits >> > 425783b5 "gnu: Remove python2-cython." >> > ffec658a "gnu: Remove python2-future." >> > 1a6eb0d6 "gnu: Remove python2-pygame-sdl2." >> > 9f1bd63f "gnu: renpy: Build with Python 3." >> > or alternatively dropping the renpy package altogether.=C2=A0 I have >> > already reverted them on my local tree, so I could push whenever =E2= =80=93 >> > the question is whether to do it in four separate commits or in a >> > big one along with an explanation. >> >=20 >> > WDYT? >>=20 >> Could you try updating renpy to a 8.0 pre-release?=C2=A0 It was last >> updated 6 days ago [0].=C2=A0 That'd be preferable to re-introducing >> Python 2 stuff. > That looks like the kind of link that would lead to hash conflicts once > the release is actually out (which isn't that bad normally, since I > tend to only use actual releases). We could use some git tag though, > there's probably a bunch that don't map to releases. In either case, > these prereleases should not be used to publish game with, which makes > packages for them kinda useless. Pre-releases are better than a broken or missing package :-). I guess it depends on our users: is someone actively using the Guix-provided renpy package to publish games? Since the package was broken 2 weeks ago without a bug report, I'd assume that no, in which case a pre-release is fine and more forward-looking in this situation. > Long-term I do think Renpy 7 should not be in Guix upstream, but past > efforts to move it elsewhere like Guix Past ended up mere discussion.=20 > The questions for me is what to do shot-term, while Renpy 8 is not a > viable option. Are all the above Python 2 dependencies already in the Guix-Past channel? If so, it seems that it could be decent option to keep renpy 7 there until renpy 8 is made stable, if updating to the pre-release in Guix proper is too difficult. Thanks, Maxim