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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1666584904; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=ICRTiRHR/SLpCXr2XtQcZJ+iD1RRKIt1LMQDjFzLBOM=; b=LCt9eHqSYZgEDIJRJ5D0dX1ZmX4U6yvZ6i+yw6+IyDG1JAeLzzqOQgWFgczAHT9mMwggj9 wogU6AnHlq5rhHPMOc3ariF7dnLyuyW9k5QiN1VOWfr0n2mrjqml5lxua2hfTng6vQliTj xX8oy9B122M1W4Ovifzn+8GP3CD2/AxCvN/8SmzSXDR9ywv3syGnqijzmUSIykfnbiYEhL SNf4AU1TKEmagFEDXh8rdeV40REoa8Z0v5cfBxT4U3EzUKBYfCPdlaO/Ls1Lc1IbGsmpYd BAa+H/P794wkK5gtra9/jRQCiRFnaB3Dvv/KkahQFtGbT9p77+nJtday6pbyyQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1666584904; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Z1bupeojhmtTTwO5hx0QmjM5+VZ0hsoxzTAThjPOSbG40EgvRjNmBhdEm6Tk0Wy+FJM8O8 VTMJQhMiiefkpoDTmKP0/7kYX1WBYEINistgunXrK3Bb3AWkRtVPRa1kXDGVN0gDEiUJxH ypo1xxrlcBm++YWicEd8cuTuw/bIPQxTPNLH8D8chXouRELMyf12fr2XWBYBlVj7ya28x4 v92Q9CRrRiEWEauaATeoZF0KftXc+aoubNtOuWLMR605xLbWkBFuLEAvcAqf6Ga1WJXtKp 3BKaLnlQVSWoM33/Sh7AkIsQd+eisewC26/4xPNdplsfPN6OA2GaCOwo4grpFQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=IHh2OhSV; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -5.71 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=IHh2OhSV; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: E31D729B7A X-Spam-Score: -5.71 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: eCVM8dhXw7eE --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ludovic Court=C3=A8s skriver: > Ludovic Court=C3=A8s skribis: > >> Quite a few packages depend on (guix build syscalls), starting from >> =E2=80=98ant-bootstrap=E2=80=99 (since commit cded3a759356ff66b7df668bcd= bdfa0daf96f4c5 >> in 2018) up to GNOME-related packages such as =E2=80=98mutter=E2=80=99 (= commit >> d1c2fe248a7a326189fb7dcae64a59ece96251ba a few months ago). It seems the usage of (guix build syscalls) in java.scm and ant-build-system is solely for 'mkdtemp!'. Guile 3.0.6 gained 'mkdtemp', so I suppose we can switch to that? If there are backwards-compatibility concerns it seems possible to modify these procedures to not need to 'mkdtemp' at all. I can prepare a patch along these lines, but not sure if we need to maintain backward compatibility in (gnu packages). > An issue is that GNOME now depends on Java: [...] > There=E2=80=99s probably not much we can do, unless the python-afdko -> i= cedtea > dependency is optional. 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