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Cc: Paul Jewell Subject: Re: Packages grow, no longer fit on a =?utf-8?Q?=F0=9F=92=BE?= In-Reply-To: <3586bd3c-2d97-ca0d-f722-be08a7440e1e@teulu.org> (Paul Jewell via's message of "Wed, 18 Jan 2023 21:44:34 +0100") References: <87tu0s7otg.fsf@inria.fr> <3586bd3c-2d97-ca0d-f722-be08a7440e1e@teulu.org> X-Gnus-Sucks: I know man Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 08:04:12 -0500 Message-ID: <87bkmuy8tv.fsf@dismail.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=78.46.223.134; envelope-from=jbranso@dismail.de; helo=mx1.dismail.de X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." 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Package size > growth is pretty inevitable, and even if work now can bring the size down to > that of a CD, the same problem will occur in the not too distant future. > > Is it really a problem? Please educate me! :) > Well if GNU Guix/Hurd System ever becomes a thing, you will need a CD to install the Hurd. The Hurd currently does not have usb support. Though work is ongoing to fix this. Also the current Debian GNU/Hurd requires a CD to install in real hardware. > > -- > Paul